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Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 04, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
Discussion rules!
Read this before posting!
Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - READ BEFORE POSTING! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,11581.0.html)

and, a quote from that post above... (still read the whole thing please.)

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Feature Requests/Suggestions
Now, you probably think "I bet they don't know I want this feature!", well, let me tell you, you are probably wrong. Unless you want the device to be able to communicate with Australia via Morse Code natively, we probably know what you want.
Every year as the new iOS rolls around, we get inundated with requests for features. Always the same sort of requests too. There requests fall under normally two or three categories:

  • Feature Requests for new features present in the new iOS. It may sound funny, but people actually request these features on a forum and project solely dedicated to providing as many of said features as we can, all for free. We already know you want these features. ;)  However, we do have experience with this and what is possible and not, both in time needed and effort that can be put forth, or even just physically possible with the devices. We talk a lot in private boards debating what can be done and can't done, and then get to work. Asking us for features never increases the likelihood they will be made, unless you can also provide some idea as to how to accomplish that goal. This is a community driven project, and while all the team members may be brillaintly smart ( :P), we can't think of everything. We welcome gladly requests with suggestions on how to accomplish said feature. Those are productive. Just asking for a feature is not, because it doesn't change our ideas of what we can and can't do.
  • Requests for Cydia tweaks to be built in (Paid and free ones).  We do get loads of requests for certain tweaks to be pre-installed on the firmware, sometimes not even relevant to the actual firmware's goal of providing a higher iOS look and feel, but rather just as a convenience to that one user to save them the time of installing it. That is not the point of whited00r. Every extra tweak we put in is another slowdown on the system, and we go for speed before features always, especially when those features have nothing to do with what we are about. Also, we will never include a paid tweak in whited00r. We are against piracy entirely. Go support those developers!  >:(
  • Requests for features physically impossible. These requests generally fall along the lines of wanting a new service rather than feature, like iTunes music, Continuity, AirDrop, or similar. None of these are possible due to the closed source nature of iOS and all the services of higher firmwares. Nothing can ever be done to enable these sorts of features. They all either rely on higher firmware capabilities, or else require different hardware entirely. We cannot ever make these services work with the official apple ones, and we aren't about to go making our own services. Only thing we may ever do is an iCloud type thing, but that wouldn't sync across the real iCloud, only your computer or dropbox like the days of old.  That being said, if you have some suggestion, just like above, for how to accomplish something without requiring a server set up on our end, please tell us!

So, if you happen to be thinking of making a feature request and it falls under the above, aside from what we said we like, please consider not doing so because you just will be linked to this thread and quoted the relevant section(s).



This is a thread that will be updated with all the general discussions for specific bits that are created, as well as a general discussion thread in general.

So, for example, someone makes a thread just about a couple (e.g. one or two things), and that topic is just for discussing those things. That helps us keep track of it and not have tons of different topics for specific features all scattered around. We will link to that thread in here, so you can join in.  If you make your own when one already exists, you will be told to post there or else just have your thread merged into it, unless it is significant enough to stand on its own.

Otherwise, for those of you that need some things explained or just like to bulk suggest things (following the READ BEFORE POSTING rules linked above of course), then this thread is for you :)[/list]
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 04, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Whited00r likes to make a close clone of newer iOS'es; so if you're looking for a way to actually find out about the new features, you might want to check out the link below. ;)

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eAHnxsESL1E

Edit: if you have iOS 8 beta 1, getting beta 2 should be as easy as checking for an update in the settings app.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 05, 2014, 01:11:01 AM
Double tap the home button reviles favorites in contact list... First we need to make a favorites bar in contacts then when we double tap the home button the people in our favorites pop up like in iOS 8  (or we can do recents , what ever is Easyer)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 05, 2014, 05:10:01 AM
Whited00r likes to make a close clone of newer iOS'es; so if you're looking for a way to actually find out about the new features, you might want to check out the link below. ;)

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eAHnxsESL1E

Thank you for that!  ;)  I think we are covered on getting betas where needed. I may end up picking up a new device just to use iOS 8 on because I don't want to update my iPhone 5 because I do some development for iOS 7.

Double tap the home button reviles favorites in contact list... First we need to make a favorites bar in contacts then when we double tap the home button the people in our favorites pop up like in iOS 8  (or we can do recents , what ever is Easyer)

Aye, that would be nice. We shall see :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on June 05, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
my suggestion is very less
1)reminder app notification
2)spotlight search like in IOS8
3)all bugs solve
i suppose it will take less time to make WD8 because IOS7 and 8 are the same (almost)
i wouldnt suggest any new featurs because the device cant run :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on June 05, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
my suggestion is very less
1)reminder app notification
2)spotlight search like in IOS8
3)all bugs solve
i suppose it will take less time to make WD8 because IOS7 and 8 are the same (almost)
i wouldnt suggest any new featurs because the device cant run :(
1. The developer for reminders has disappeared. But I'm sure something could be done...
2. Some of apples internal things a closed source but it may be possible...
3. That depends on the time it takes. All the bugs from whited00r 7 are still being tracked down but I'm sure something may be worked out...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 06, 2014, 02:04:20 AM
Photos in notes.. Just saw that if possible can that be added
Photo countdown timer in camera
More suggestions soon.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 06, 2014, 10:36:46 AM
Camera zoom controled by finger spread and pinch
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: luunhatminh1999 on June 06, 2014, 11:10:32 AM
Oh I've read somewhere Apple provided devs 4000 different API codes for features in their app to match iOS 8 features. I wonder if it could help something with WD8 features?
My suggestion: do your best to have as much feature as possible to match iOS 8 :P
Ok just kidding, here's some of my idea for improvement:
1/ I saw that there used to be a newspaper app on WD 6. Why don't you make it again, but instead of reading newspapaper, try WD news :) ex: a place where devs can post news instead of facebook :) (probably difficult and requires lots of effort).
2/ Improvement on the Reminder app. I was confused when using it. Really tricky, same theme as ios's app but not as easy to use.
3/ Make some icon (yeah just icon, no need to be work) of new apps on iOS 8 just to look like real (health, passport, etc.).
4/ if possible, speed improvement to make WD tweaks work more efficiently and less choppy. (i know, just simply disable as much feature as possible for more speed, but I said 'if' :P )
5/ Cycorder is an open source, so why don't you make a theme to look like real? WD 7 advertised the ios 7 theme of Cycorder on main page but actually there was no different of WD 6.
6/ Focus more on themes to balance between everything since lots of people don't know and keep asking why those letters are so hard to read, why my button is red, blue, green,... And, Yeah, including a small handmake tweak to make the power off theme like ios 7.1
7/ Make animation to slide and switch between camera modes such as time lapse, video, square,... But no need to make it work, do exactly what you did to the do not disturb button in control center: this function is currently not available...
8/ So the do not disturb feature was 'currently not available'. So, please make it work :)
9/ (Out of topic) The quick access to camera on lockscreen ought to go back to the lockscreen again rather than go straight into homescreen when I press the home button. What's more, if passcode is turned on, still needs to enter password prior to use the camera. Not useful at all, still take time.
-> In conclusion, I think WD team should focus more on theming than making new features, since old generation devices lacks of speed and lack of resource on iOS 3. I wanted a theme to match exactly like ios 8, even actually they don't work :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 07, 2014, 01:50:02 AM
How about an increased Blur setting in WD settings so everything is blurred like the volume thing and the home screen when in app switcher and notifications ect...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 07, 2014, 04:13:45 AM
@luunhatminh1999
1. We may, but really, Facebook is more common for people as it is on the desktop as well as phone ;) 

2. The developer for reminders had a sort of falling out with the rest of the team, so I don't know if we will be getting anything changed with that unless we do something from scratch :(

3. We try not to put any superfluous things on the firmware, for the same reason we don't have privacy settings in the settings app, because there is nothing behind them ;) If we just add things for the sake of it, it becomes cluttered.  (and we get tons of forum posts asking why they don't work even if we state they aren't actual features)

4.  Well, a lot of the new features are very quick for 3.1.3, except for Sara and the iOS 7 App Switcher. Control center is very quick unless you turn on the advanced visual option for having the blur enabled, and really, there is no way to make that quicker. As is it is way past anything you could have hoped for out of this hardware with how quick it is already ;)

5. We may, again, it comes down to time though on what we can and cannot do with balancing all the other things on the plate.

6. I hope you aren't talking about the graphical things that we cannot fix because of apps running as root that was explained in the Whited00r 7.1 FAQ/Bugs and Troubleshooting READ BEFORE POSTING (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,10618.0.html) ;) We decided that instead of making all apps readable, but look nasty graphically overall, and really more of an amateur attempt at the graphics, we went and used white for all the apps we can, aside from root apps, because they cannot be hooked by our UI tweak. Other than the root apps (3-4 really total that work on 3.1.3 and people install, if that), every other app and third party app look very much like iOS 7 for what we can theme in them without reverse engineering the UI on every single app in the App Time Machine. As of Whited00r 7.1, there should be much less white on white text anywhere else in the system aside from what is explained above, as well as the buttons and such should all look much nicer and be readable and/or iOS 7 like (which if you complain about that, you are using the wrong firmware) ;)

7. Again with the adding of features that don't do anything, we don't really want to do that. It makes users upset when something doesn't work, and if it never can work. Control center was a special exception to the rule, simply because we did not have time to do all we had wanted to do.

8. Well, it is on the very long list of things people want. If we were to do it, we would want to do it 100% as a feature, not just a simple disabling of something notification wise. If users want that they can just disable push notifications themselves.

9. That's more of a bug, and sort of not. We will look into how we can change that :)

How about an increased Blur setting in WD settings so everything is blurred like the volume thing and the home screen when in app switcher and notifications ect...

Well seeing the blur is already very very slow to do and is a miracle it blurs where it does, any extra blurs really wouldn't fit in well. None of the blurs are actually "Live". Blurring the volume popup or even the notifications would not look good, because we can't actually update the blur without having a massive hit on performance for when the underneath of those popups/views change.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Sexy on June 07, 2014, 08:33:35 PM
Hm, maybe folders maybe?


And, ty to those people who told me that my iPod 3g wouldn't get WD ever and ever (CPvidemaker, mariokart or something, bruan)... I'm buying a used iPod 2nd gen 8gigs, and hopefully i'll get WD7 on monday or tuesday or so... Anyway, good luck with WD8!

P.s. Bruan, weren't u bcooperizcool or something o.o;; weird. What's ur profile pic as well? Is it like a sloth wearing sunglasses with a gun or something? o.o 

OFf topic o.o
Whited00r 7 emoticons r kinda kewl
ima try guessing each one
:) :| :D :D >:D :( :O ;) o.o ?(how to make hitting wall) :P (:) :I :x <3?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 08, 2014, 03:29:26 AM

Hm, maybe folders maybe?


And, ty to those people who told me that my iPod 3g wouldn't get WD ever and ever (CPvidemaker, mariokart or something, bruan)... I'm buying a used iPod 2nd gen 8gigs, and hopefully i'll get WD7 on monday or tuesday or so... Anyway, good luck with WD8!

P.s. Bruan, weren't u bcooperizcool or something o.o;; weird. What's ur profile pic as well? Is it like a sloth wearing sunglasses with a gun or something? o.o 

OFf topic o.o
Whited00r 7 emoticons r kinda kewl
ima try guessing each one
:) :| :D :D >:D :( :O ;) o.o ?(how to make hitting wall) :P (:) :I :x <3?
They already have folders.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 08, 2014, 05:58:36 AM
The iPod touch 3G can run iOS 5 anyway so it has more native features than whited00r does and more tweak support too ;)

Anyway, we do have folders on the device, although they are a very old tweak which we cannot really update. The only reason they look different in Whited00r 7 is we hooked the tweak itself for what we could, and modified some of it to display differently and more iOS 7 like.

Yeah, I did used to be called that but I switched to something more professional ;)
My avatar is indeed a sloth with sunglasses and a gun. It is in an alleyway too :P

If you go to "preview" you can actually see the list of emoticons and choose from them there, and see what makes them :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on June 08, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Suggestion for real time multitasking for fast appswicher  :)
and sara's graphics also....the mic thing is no longer there.It shows a wired white line
AAAAAAAAAnd i know this feature cannot be made due to hardware issue but i will be suggesting it ......like the Hey siri can we make Hey sara :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 10, 2014, 01:59:48 AM

Suggestion for real time multitasking for fast appswicher  :)
and sara's graphics also....the mic thing is no longer there.It shows a wired white line
AAAAAAAAAnd i know this feature cannot be made due to hardware issue but i will be suggesting it ......like the Hey siri can we make Hey sara :D
That would be a bad idea the mic will always have to be on then which will drain battery life
Idk though I do NOT work for whited00r
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: mhveinvp on June 11, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
Hello.
Its another of my boring posts on the WD forum again. Last time too was a bit over the top but i think i have figured it out.
Lets get it straight, the developers of WD are all entirely awesome. That said, we have always attempted to copy the higher ios onto the older devices with an impressive success.
It was yesterday night that scouring yahoo search, came across a search term that really caught my attention. "open source ios apps".
There are practically hundreds of apps with their source code for the world to use and make better things. Got me thinking, how about we use these apps to build function into our devices and also since most of there apps are not on the ATM, it would'nt be wrong if we remade them.
1. Itunes radio. Everyone is asking for it, last.Fm has its source code open for public, why not use it to build ourselves one.
2. Reminders. Saw an app, a to do app that has a billion times more function than the WD reminders app, why not reskin it and replace it as a stock app?
3. Many forum apps that should work to heta native WD forum app.
4. News app one that used rss and other that uses facebook to show updates, news. Wont that work as an easy way to push important updates to all the devices.
5. My suggestion is to stop working to get big big stuff like the notification center to the os because all new things will always bloat up the ram, instead focus on ironing out as many bugs, ui and adding functionality to the stock apps.
Maybe even add more apps as stock ones (i think more stock apps should not affect the resident os. Right?)
there probably must be dozens of open source camera apps, why not completly replace the stock camera for a simple yet functional camera app? Same goes for notes and calendar.
6. Backup. Backup. Backup.
Look, before someone cuts me short by saying stuff cant be done, what about cycorder. Agreed it needs a facelift but it works. Thats functionality im talking about bringing to other apps as well.
Thank you
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 11, 2014, 05:28:41 AM

Hello.
Its another of my boring posts on the WD forum again. Last time too was a bit over the top but i think i have figured it out.
Lets get it straight, the developers of WD are all entirely awesome. That said, we have always attempted to copy the higher ios onto the older devices with an impressive success.
It was yesterday night that scouring yahoo search, came across a search term that really caught my attention. "open source ios apps".
There are practically hundreds of apps with their source code for the world to use and make better things. Got me thinking, how about we use these apps to build function into our devices and also since most of there apps are not on the ATM, it would'nt be wrong if we remade them.
1. Itunes radio. Everyone is asking for it, last.Fm has its source code open for public, why not use it to build ourselves one.
2. Reminders. Saw an app, a to do app that has a billion times more function than the WD reminders app, why not reskin it and replace it as a stock app?
3. Many forum apps that should work to heta native WD forum app.
4. News app one that used rss and other that uses facebook to show updates, news. Wont that work as an easy way to push important updates to all the devices.
5. My suggestion is to stop working to get big big stuff like the notification center to the os because all new things will always bloat up the ram, instead focus on ironing out as many bugs, ui and adding functionality to the stock apps.
Maybe even add more apps as stock ones (i think more stock apps should not affect the resident os. Right?)
there probably must be dozens of open source camera apps, why not completly replace the stock camera for a simple yet functional camera app? Same goes for notes and calendar.
6. Backup. Backup. Backup.
Look, before someone cuts me short by saying stuff cant be done, what about cycorder. Agreed it needs a facelift but it works. Thats functionality im talking about bringing to other apps as well.
Thank you
Whited00r likes to code their own stuff, and doesn't grab items from other places (however they may somewhat replicate the ideas), so  chances are your app requests will be either rejected or implemented some way differently.

Notification center is in high demand, you soundly believe how many people are asking for it. :P

As for your radio want/need, try this: http://www.mediafire.com/?p6ia35di0hjigf8
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 11, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
Even if apps are open source, there is no guarantee they would work for 3.1.3 at all. That is the big issue.   We don't have the time or effort to go through each of the apps to see what is broken for 3.1.3, and see if the application would even work if we removed what didn't work for 3.1.3 (often times entire functionality of the apps hinge around one specific bit that was added on a higher firmware).  Sometimes it is worse, and it hinges around an entire framework, more so with the apps that use networking.  Also, local reminders are nonexistent on 3.1.3, so anything that tries to push those through would fail.

We also do prefer to code our own stuff, so even if there is a bug, we know the code better than something we just used off of online, so we know what modifying certain things does in the end.

5. We did mainly do the push for fixing up graphical bugs and crash bugs in whited00r 7.1, it just happens it was more muted by the completion of a couple features and additions to features we had in the works that we were able to finish up as well.  The graphics and stability changes on the backend since whited00r 7 to 7.1 are rather impressive, but not really visible to the end user because they are just... "working". :)

6.  What?  Backup my elephant? :P

Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 12, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
On The Air Updates alternative: deb installation.... for those who has network connection problems.....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 12, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
On The Air Updates alternative: deb installation.... for those who has network connection problems.....

Perhaps, but it could get very messy that way.  We don't want people mirroring or sharing the .debs, and if we distribute them, that will happen.  When that happens, people start looking for older versions, and decide it would be a good idea to install those older unsupported versions, that could have massive bugs in, and then complain on the forums.  Even installing an older version instead of the most up to date version is likely to happen.  Or, installing an older version over the newer version could have even worse effects.   
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: mrhieu2903 on June 13, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Here's my suggestions:
- Interactive Notification ( of course )
- Notification center ( If you can)
- Mail app with Gestures
- iOS 8 Photo Editor
- New Weather app
- Combine Cycroder+Camera into ONE app
- Better Music UI ( Music Player, Video Player,..)
- Better Control Center ( Tap Play icon to Play Music; AirDrop (Bluetooth file sharing) )
- iOS 7.1/8 UI
- Optimize Safari to make it browse the web faster
- Optimize whited00r to use less RAM -> Fasterrrr
more...let me think about it...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 13, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
Welcome to the forums :)

Interactive notifications could only go so far, none of the third party apps at all could make use of it, seeing they were not developed to. Reverse engineering even a small selection of apps (if we even could) and modifying them with a tweak and injecting our own code into how it works so they use the interactive notifications would take ages to do, and would not really have that big of a payoff.  System apps are another story, but even then it is pushing it.

Photo editing is iffy at best, and finding free processing algorithms that work on 3.1.3 would be difficult too :(
Bluetooth file sharing would only work on the iPhone 3G and iPod touch 2G (maybe iPhone 2G... not as good hardware there), but even that would not be good for actual airdrop or file or music streaming.
You should be able to tap the play icon to play music in the control center already? :o

I'm not really sure how you think we can optimize Safari :(  It is closed source, and there is nothing really that can be changed with it, seeing everything it loads is from online. We cannot update the javascript engine it uses, and we can't give the device better hardware so it loads quicker.

Whited00r already is optimized pretty much as is, the system has a lot less running on it because of what we do, and all the new tweaks (aside from the iOS 7 App Switcher and Sara) are very minimal on memory/CPU usage. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: aleksandar2507 on June 13, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
I have a question,not suggestion  8),can you "whited00r" tell us what can we expect from  next version of whited00r :)? Reason for question not suggestion is beacuse we bored you with suggestion for notification centre ;D ;D
Suggestion:

1).Photo album like in ios 7-8
2).Appswitcher  like ios 7 then like ios 8 if is possibile,appswitcher on wd 7.1 is so creepy,i am using proswitcher
3).Weather to look like ios 7-8
4).Camera is ok,but Cycroder is not and i bealive is a open source
5).Better graphics-picture in keypad-call-is not like ios 7-8
6).Better graphic everywhere

All that thing will bi great to do but you keep focus on fixing wd and making him stable..
And hurry-latin proverb "hurry up slowly"..

By the way thank you whitedoor ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 13, 2014, 07:19:06 PM
No, we won't tell you what we are working on and have working.  That is explained in the Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - READ BEFORE POSTING! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,11581.0.html), which also explains the suggestions thread. This isn't so much a feature request thread as a suggestion thread. We know you want features, and just saying you want them doesn't change what we can and cannot do.  We are very open to suggestions on how to do it however.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 14, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
i think iOS 8's only visible difference to iOS 7 is features.... so WD 8 must be focused with replicating the possible (ofcourse NOT the feature that requires server like Family sharing, maildrop and many more) iOS 8 features to be replicated like iOS 8 notification center and iOS 8 Control Center.... But I know that it will be really really hard to do..... but I have a BIG trust in WD team that they can do it...

Go WD Team!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on June 14, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
i think iOS 8's only visible difference to iOS 7 is features.... so WD 8 must be focused with replicating the possible (ofcourse NOT the feature that requires server like Family sharing, maildrop and many more) iOS 8 features to be replicated like iOS 8 notification center and iOS 8 Control Center.... But I know that it will be really really hard to do..... but I have a BIG trust in WD team that they can do it...

Go WD Team!!!! ;D ;D
As there are less features within ios 8 we may spend more time fixing (and tracking down issues) in base tweaks (such as the lockscreen and the UI tweak (but I think that doesn't cause crashes anymore anyway)) the contacts in multitasking does seem a viable option but I have no idea...
As for notifcation centre it's high in demand and is being talked about....

And for the server stuff it is a bit of a bum :( though posting from the ios beta
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 14, 2014, 08:30:31 PM

As there are less features within ios 8 we may spend more time fixing (and tracking down issues) in base tweaks (such as the lockscreen and the UI tweak (but I think that doesn't cause crashes anymore anyway)) the contacts in multitasking does seem a viable option but I have no idea...
As for notifcation centre it's high in demand and is being talked about....

And for the server stuff it is a bit of a bum :( though posting from the ios beta
Any noticeable differences, besides the ones talked about on the webpage? (Also, apparently you can put folders within folders on both iOS 7 and 8 using a glitch. )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 15, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
I Suggest "Interactive Notification" because it's one of the Key Feature of iOS 8.... You can make a tweak that if you pull down the banner, it will appear then like "Interactive notification" we can write our reply then we tap send button,,, then the tweak will copy paste it to the message app in the background and automatically press send...... and then messages was send in background, :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: aleksandar2507 on June 15, 2014, 08:06:03 AM
I Suggest "Interactive Notification" because it's one of the Key Feature of iOS 8.... You can make a tweak that if you pull down the banner, it will appear then like "Interactive notification" we can write our reply then we tap send button,,, then the tweak will copy paste it to the message app in the background and automatically press send...... and then messages was send in background, :)

Nice idea :) suport for PHJayvee1G :)..
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 15, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Maybe a custom bootlogo?
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 15, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
Some small Suggestions
1. Blurred home screen in app switcher instead of black screen
2. More saturated control center
3. Lighter round switches
4. Some photo editing tools I under stand if you can't do it
5. Photos in notes (ios 8 feature)
6. More Themed weather app
7. Pull down spotlight search with blurred background and dark key board.
8.darker falter ios 7 themed stock app
9. Some ios 8 gestures like slide all the way to delete mail
10.the ios 7 sound pack and the option to choose your ringtone for things you can't
11. Photos arranged by date or location like in ios 7
12. Filter options for photos ??
13. Blurred status bar
14. Ios 7.1 slide to power off and cancel  button
15. A mock up passbook app ?? No one really uses it also a mock up newsstand like in WD6
16. When lock screen your listening to music and it shows your album art it should shows your wallpaper instead if a black screen
17. Better themed calendar app icon and calendar glitch in app switcher
18. Better unglitched passcode
19. Interactive notifications for texts , text free and twitter and swipe up to get rid of notifications
20. 2 new (optional) keyboards ios 7 non blurred white keyboard for everyhing and a black keyboard for spot lite search
21. I know we talked about it but maybe an increased blurred setting with a warning
22. More ios 7 app switcher animations spotlight search animation and a better  opening and closing animation
23. Spot lite search can include apps in time machine and music in the iTunes Store like in ios 8
24. Optional live clock icon
25. Ios 7 themed folders
26. Smiley face image on keyboard and a predictive typing keyboard ( both on ios 8) and maby an option to type with your voice ( for devices with microphones )
27. Calendar has holidays on it ( ios 7.1 )
28. Triple click the home button to invert colors or turn it black and white
29. Circle icons in calendar
30. I was looking at other peoples suggestions a themed cydia recorder and to keep it in the same app


iKnow iGot a lot of requests but these are mostly minor things that will probs take a long time to code but it's worth a try ... So if you can work on these that will be great if you can't I under stand
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 15, 2014, 10:28:33 PM
Nice idea :) suport for PHJayvee1G :)..

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 15, 2014, 10:44:56 PM

I Suggest "Interactive Notification" because it's one of the Key Feature of iOS 8.... You can make a tweak that if you pull down the banner, it will appear then like "Interactive notification" we can write our reply then we tap send button,,, then the tweak will copy paste it to the message app in the background and automatically press send...... and then messages was send in background, :)
I'm with you that would be cool
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on June 16, 2014, 06:54:56 AM
Maybe a custom bootlogo?
Whited00r 7 has a custom bootlogo so there should be no reson as to why whited00r 8 won't have one

As for 90% for the other suggestions please look back in this thread as they are explained as to either if it's possible or not...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 16, 2014, 05:57:35 PM

Whited00r 7 has a custom bootlogo so there should be no reson as to why whited00r 8 won't have one

As for 90% for the other suggestions please look back in this thread as they are explained as to either if it's possible or not...
I think he means when you start up the phone it's the iOS 7 boot logo instead of the old boot logo
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on June 16, 2014, 06:40:57 PM
I think he means when you start up the phone it's the iOS 7 boot logo instead of the old boot logo
It is a custom bootlogo. But I think it's device specific.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 16, 2014, 08:29:42 PM

It is a custom bootlogo. But I think it's device specific.
Maybe a whited00r bootlogo. :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 17, 2014, 10:41:50 AM
I'm with you that would be cool

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 20, 2014, 03:02:47 AM
I have just a few ideas that should be added. One is the ScreenFade tweak. I believe it would work with the WD firmware if it had a little modifying or maybe one made from scratch just for WD. Another wouldbe simply just a notification center. Just seems something ergonomically useful. I know a lot of people post that they want NC, I just added this to my post just cuz it's on my mind right now. The respring double tap when using manual multitasking for the card switcher ios7 style and even an app closer by swipping up on the card. These would be nice to add and many people would probably agree with it. I hope the Screen fade effect during waking and sleeping is added. Thank You in advance!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 20, 2014, 04:16:44 AM

I have just a few ideas that should be added. One is the ScreenFade tweak. I believe it would work with the WD firmware if it had a little modifying or maybe one made from scratch just for WD. Another wouldbe simply just a notification center. Just seems something ergonomically useful. I know a lot of people post that they want NC, I just added this to my post just cuz it's on my mind right now. The respring double tap when using manual multitasking for the card switcher ios7 style and even an app closer by swipping up on the card. These would be nice to add and many people would probably agree with it. I hope the Screen fade effect during waking and sleeping is added. Thank You in advance!!
Whited00r loves to code stuff themselves, and external tweaks/apps are not included, or are implemented in a different way.

As for notification center, they are working on it; but are debating wether or not to add it in the next whited00r or as a paid item kinda like push notifications.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 20, 2014, 06:54:48 AM
I have just a few ideas that should be added. One is the ScreenFade tweak. I believe it would work with the WD firmware if it had a little modifying or maybe one made from scratch just for WD. Another wouldbe simply just a notification center. Just seems something ergonomically useful. I know a lot of people post that they want NC, I just added this to my post just cuz it's on my mind right now. The respring double tap when using manual multitasking for the card switcher ios7 style and even an app closer by swipping up on the card. These would be nice to add and many people would probably agree with it. I hope the Screen fade effect during waking and sleeping is added. Thank You in advance!!

Well, depending on how it works, it may not work at all with whited00r without heavy modification or building from scratch, if it depends on something iOS 4 + only, there is a reason for it ;) 

Notification center would be nice, and we do have all the pieces, just not put together for that.  We would want to do it very nicely and professionally, so it feels right to use and doesn't slow down the device or act funky (kind of like the iOS 7 App Switcher acts funky).

Whited00r loves to code stuff themselves, and external tweaks/apps are not included, or are implemented in a different way.

As for notification center, they are working on it; but are debating wether or not to add it in the next whited00r or as a paid item kinda like push notifications.

You are right, we do like using our own tweaks now!  There is I think one or two tweaks that are not whited00r, but nothing paid (of course) and nothing major at all, just preference loader (older version, so it stops the settings app crashing), and some Unibar tweak for safari (unless I was out of the loop and someone else made that for whited00r, I really don't know).

The push notifications thing is paid for a different reason, it is not like a tweak.  It actually requires work each time someone gets a certificate, and it has to be done for every single certificate. That, plus the online storage and ease of use within the firmware to use it, it's a different sort of thing than a tweak in Cydia, which just requires one creation of the tweak (and updates of course, but not always...).  Push certificate generation can literally break the hardware on a device given enough time, and when that happens, there needs to be money for a replacement, as well as to cover server costs and the constant time it takes to manage all the certificates.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 20, 2014, 02:57:37 PM
I didn't mean that y'all had to use the actual tweak ScreenFade on hashbang's repo. No I read the Read Before Posting for WD8 page and that it says no more public betas and no more intergrating tweaks from 3rd party developers, paid or not, "Go Support Those Developers!" no, I was just suggesting a tweat or addon of that fashion. A fade of the screen when waking the device to lock screen and sleeping the device to blank screen. It makes it feel very ios7/8 instead of an adbrupt "Good morning" lol when clicking the home or lock button. But there probably needs to be an on/off togglefor such feature (most likelyin the configurator) because I have read some reviews online about how some people don't like the fade. So it could be an option that for people who want it can have it enabled and the same goes for the ones that just like "ios6" style waking.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: ZergeSokolov on June 20, 2014, 08:25:32 PM
Im currently out of ideas, but I would sugest that first end up the details in WD7.1. Once ended, i dont think that bugs on WD8 could be a problem. Im good with WD7, and WD8 would be a nice one.


PHJayvee1G idea seems the best to me. I love playing Solitaire while texting, so this would be awesome since i would not close Solitaire app  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: PHJayvee1G on June 20, 2014, 11:33:42 PM
Im currently out of ideas, but I would sugest that first end up the details in WD7.1. Once ended, i dont think that bugs on WD8 could be a problem. Im good with WD7, and WD8 would be a nice one.


PHJayvee1G idea seems the best to me. I love playing Solitaire while texting, so this would be awesome since i would not close Solitaire app  ;D

Thanks for Supporting!! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 21, 2014, 06:28:22 AM
I didn't mean that y'all had to use the actual tweak ScreenFade on hashbang's repo. No I read the Read Before Posting for WD8 page and that it says no more public betas and no more intergrating tweaks from 3rd party developers, paid or not, "Go Support Those Developers!" no, I was just suggesting a tweat or addon of that fashion. A fade of the screen when waking the device to lock screen and sleeping the device to blank screen. It makes it feel very ios7/8 instead of an adbrupt "Good morning" lol when clicking the home or lock button. But there probably needs to be an on/off togglefor such feature (most likelyin the configurator) because I have read some reviews online about how some people don't like the fade. So it could be an option that for people who want it can have it enabled and the same goes for the ones that just like "ios6" style waking.

Ahhh, well either way, depending on how it works fundamentally, it is possible it only really works because of a certain API change on a different iOS version.  That quite often happens with tweaks ;)  A screen fade may be possible, depending on how it effects the device responsiveness on wake and sleep.
Most of the things that are not necessary visually to make the device actually usable and readable are able to be toggled by the whited00r settings, so if we did make something like that and put it in, it would have a toggle :)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 21, 2014, 12:49:16 PM

I have just a few ideas that should be added. One is the ScreenFade tweak. I believe it would work with the WD firmware if it had a little modifying or maybe one made from scratch just for WD. Another wouldbe simply just a notification center. Just seems something ergonomically useful. I know a lot of people post that they want NC, I just added this to my post just cuz it's on my mind right now. The respring double tap when using manual multitasking for the card switcher ios7 style and even an app closer by swipping up on the card. These would be nice to add and many people would probably agree with it. I hope the Screen fade effect during waking and sleeping is added. Thank You in advance!!
I agree that would be cool I haven't thought about that before
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 21, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
A screen fade may be possible, depending on how it effects the device responsiveness on wake and sleep.
Most of the things that are not necessary visually to make the device actually usable and readable are able to be toggled by the whited00r settings, so if we did make something like that and put it in, it would have a toggle :)

Cool. Me and probably a lot of others will be happy to see this feature.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 23, 2014, 02:23:24 AM
How about a time lapse options in video like it takes a photo every 5 seconds and turns it in to a video .... Or just a sped up version of the video option
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 23, 2014, 06:35:35 AM
How about a time lapse options in video like it takes a photo every 5 seconds and turns it in to a video .... Or just a sped up version of the video option

Speeding up the video switching option is not really able to happen, because Cycorder still will take the same amount of time to launch :/
There is probably an app for doing what you want, although as a video recording replacement, it is not such a good alternative.
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 24, 2014, 01:32:52 AM
Speeding up the video switching option is not really able to happen, because Cycorder still will take the same amount of time to launch :/
There is probably an app for doing what you want, although as a video recording replacement, it is not such a good alternative.
i don't mean rid of video recording just add in the time time lapse app or option on whited00r  like swipe twice to the left and it will switch to the time-lapse app and once to the left is of corse cycorder ... and maybe theme the apps to look like ios 7/8 ... Maybe swipe to the right reviles a square photo option? Idk I don't think square is all that nessassary  or cool like time lapse
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 24, 2014, 06:09:14 AM
Ohhhh...  That may be difficult, and I don't know if the hardware is there to support longer time lapses recorded via that...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 24, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
A simple yet possibly complicated idea is a small preview for certain apps like the weather app. Maybe it could be done if the preview acted like a folder, in the sense that opening the folder showed some basic info, as well as the option to launch the app.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 24, 2014, 06:32:43 PM
I like what MarioKartEpicness said. Probably difficult to do but would be very cool.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 24, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
MarioKartEpicness, I think that the theory of iOS Blocks would be the perfect solution. Check it out!!

http://ios.wonderhowto.com/inspiration/is-what-ios-8-would-look-like-with-widgets-and-its-pretty-amazing-0155254/

http://theultralinx.com/2014/05/pushing-ios-amazing-ios-8-concept.html

These would be so cool to have in WD8
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on June 25, 2014, 03:13:01 AM

MarioKartEpicness, I think that the theory of iOS Blocks would be the perfect solution. Check it out!!

http://ios.wonderhowto.com/inspiration/is-what-ios-8-would-look-like-with-widgets-and-its-pretty-amazing-0155254/

http://theultralinx.com/2014/05/pushing-ios-amazing-ios-8-concept.html

These would be so cool to have in WD8
It's not actually in ios 8 thus whited00r will not add it  If you want you can add that tweak in your self
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 25, 2014, 07:11:31 AM
It's not actually in ios 8 thus whited00r will not add it  If you want you can add that tweak in your self

This.  Whited00r may provide a couple extra things stock higher iOS versions do not, but not normally tweak wise.  The only real difference is the Whited00r Settings to allow for control over the firmware.  As for actual extra tweaks, we simply don't have time to do that if it isn't in stock iOS.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 25, 2014, 01:29:42 PM

This.  Whited00r may provide a couple extra things stock higher iOS versions do not, but not normally tweak wise.  The only real difference is the Whited00r Settings to allow for control over the firmware.  As for actual extra tweaks, we simply don't have time to do that if it isn't in stock iOS.
Ah, I see. thank you anyway.

But if their actually is a tweak in cydia for it, what is it called? I may try it out myself.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on June 25, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
I don't think it's a tweak. And if it were, it'd probably be for the legit ios devices.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on June 26, 2014, 01:50:15 AM
Ah, I see. thank you anyway.

But if their actually is a tweak in cydia for it, what is it called? I may try it out myself.

Nothing for iOS 3, there is for maybe iOS 5+ (iOS 6 it does support for sure) called "Velox". 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on June 26, 2014, 02:27:10 AM

Nothing for iOS 3, there is for maybe iOS 5+ (iOS 6 it does support for sure) called "Velox".
Ok, I'll check it out, thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: mzs.112000 on June 30, 2014, 10:27:28 PM
How about more open, community based development(Development would go faster, and more bugs could be fixed).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on July 01, 2014, 02:44:50 AM
 Would a small panel in the settings app dedicated to crediting the devs be a good idea?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 01, 2014, 05:30:22 AM
How about more open, community based development(Development would go faster, and more bugs could be fixed).

Open development and debugging is a very easy way to get overwhelmed.  By true open community development, as in actually viewing the source code, that isn't going to happen. We keep things closed source for the most part so it keeps people using whited00r, which means we still have people to develop tweaks for ;)  If we open source things, people start taking code away and using it elsewhere, often times not so well either because they didn't code it themselves and don't really understand exactly how everything works together.

More often than not, mixing people who code on a project, unless for a specific bit or with the intent to code for open source, gets very messy.  You would get people of varying levels of coding ability, some with more needing to not use as much as they know, so that the other people who don't know as much can keep up, thus hindering what we can actually do for the end user.  That, or we allow everyone to code at the level they know, and then we have a non-optimal tweak with mixed levels of coding skill in it, and tracking down a bug or even going through someone else's code to try and make the different bits work together gets messy. It is like having someone organize an entire house, or better yet, apartment complex and all the rooms, then having someone else go through it to try and find something. That, and then put something else away where it belongs or organize it to the way the rest of the apartment complex is organized. You may find it in the end, and be able to put something kind of where it goes, but in the end it doesn't really work as well as if you had just one person managing it all.   Yes, it may be quicker to have many people work on different bits and then make the edges compatible with each other so everything can slot together, but it won't have the same nice look as if everything was designed by one person from the very start.

Everyone has their own coding style. Almost like a signature really, you can write it yourself, and it works fine for everything, but try to force someone else to use it, or write part of it then you finish it, and it doesn't work. Sure, you could write it block letters and simply (even that everyone normally has their own slight twist on, unless they force themselves to make it uniform), but a signature feels more natural by far, and works best when you do it yourself :)

As it stands, we do have other developers and designers help out with already built objects, when it makes sense. They are very small places mind you, but it still helps the end result. It works, and no one has to worry about keeping the code simpler for people who are still learning.  We don't actually share source code between the team normally either, aside from snippets where it could help someone else along.  This is much easier because it is faster to actually ask someone for help with something, because they could have a little snippet of code that kind of works for what the other developer needs help with, but rather than make the other developer go through all the other code to try and figure out how that little bit works with the rest of the code, the original developer can just show them in a tiny example.

End rant-ish thing, for that at least. Brace for the next one... ;)

Unless you meant just open development as in having beta testing open to the public, and progress reports and features we have made and problems we are facing and such.
In that case, have explained that several times already as to why we don't do that ;)

We used to do that, let the public beta test things and have a general open forum for everything like that.  However, it very quickly became messy and a pain to even troubleshoot for the users that weren't on the beta.

Even though we post rules, people don't follow them.  We may state the beta is just that, a beta, but people don't care that it says that and just want the latest and greatest.  They then judge the firmware based on it, and don't seem to understand that beta means it has bugs, even if they are known bugs that we say we already know the cause of and are working on fixing.  They then complain to the forums, for the bugs we already established exist, and often don't search for similar threads either. Sometimes they skip the forums entirely, and think whited00r is just buggy and useless. They then also spread that around to their friends, or post it on the facebook page in the comments section and so on. That, and they don't actually specify the device they use or what whited00r version they are using.

They don't know what beta version they are using (even if it is easy to find out). They post asking for help, not saying the whited00r version, or, even worse, post in threads that have slightly similar issues (credit to them for searching though!), but don't let on that the device they are using is not actually set up like the original poster and is actually on a beta, which would have a whole different set of troubleshooting steps. 
In the end, it wastes time for both the user and the whited00r team trying to track down all these unorganized, repetitive, and messy forum posts. It really is rather depressing and disheartening to need to deal with all of that, and we should know, because we have tried it before for previous whited00r versions ;)
Yes, you get a couple people who actually can help out legitimately, but they are far outnumbered by people who can't or simply don't, and even if they do try and help, they get drowned out by the other posts :(

Open feature progress reports just get the forum filled up with asking why a certain feature doesn't do something specific, or doesn't behave in a certain way or look like something, or why we have not made another feature, far before we have even made anything final feature wise. It just get cluttered up really.  Much easier to leave everyone to speculation before announcing what we are doing when everything is done, than saying what we have done and then people asking us to add stuff, and being disappointing when we have not added something in, either because we didn't have time, or because it simply cannot work. On a free product mind you, for something no one else is doing, and you can't get features like anywhere else, and no one ever would make anything like it for such old devices. :(  They gloss over that, and are just upset at us.

As it stands, we have a closed beta testing group and development team. This is much cleaner for us to manage, as everyone in there knows what version they are on, knows how to do everything, and is there just to help out.  It is all confined to a specific forum just for the beta testing team, that no one aside from them can access. (We tried having a public board before for that, but people still posted outside of it and in other threads and so on as explained above)
Development goes on under the radar, and we don't have to deal with unorganized and messy forums either, or really any of the issues above :)

Sorry for the long rant type thing, just the way it is  :-\

Would a small panel in the settings app dedicated to crediting the devs be a good idea?

We actually did have one, but it was pulled at the last minute before release, I don't remember why though :(  Didn't just credit devs, but also other team members as well who help make whited00r, whited00r.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FordRanchero289 on July 01, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
A credits tab would be cool. I'd thank them all with a personal message each. Thank you Bruan for always monitoring and responding to the posts on yalls forums.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 01, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
A credits tab would be cool. I'd thank them all with a personal message each. Thank you Bruan for always monitoring and responding to the posts on yalls forums.

We shall see what we can do for future versions with a credits tab :)  (and thank you! :) )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Cr1s714n1999 on July 02, 2014, 07:02:20 PM
My suggestions are :
1) Fix the white text on a white background (I think is possible but i'm not sure)
2) Notification center (we can't use lockinfo because there are some problems with WD7)
3) Calendar icon more similar to ios 7 calendar icon
4) Remove from the AppTimeMachine the apps which don't work (example Gravity guy in the Game section)
5) Fix Whatsapp bug (if you open it you automatically you lose all your contacts :()
6) Power off slider more similiar to ios 7.1
7) Favorites and recent contacts in the multitasking switcher like in ios 8 (it would be really cool :P)
8 ) "Delete" the old animation of camera. When you open it in WD 7.1+ there is the ios 6 animation (in ios 7 and 8 there isn't that kind of animation but a simple blur effect)
9) Weather app more similar to ios 7
10) Resolve the bug of the maps app (if you click on localization button it crash)
11) Try to make a better round switches (little more bigger)
12) Modify youtube app because it's pretty buggy and ugly
13) Fix calculator bug ( if you rotate the idevice and click on C the AC button is bad)
14) Photo and video in the same app (Camera... :-X)
15) Safari options in the settings (in WD7.1+ is not possible disable javascript in safari)
16) Status bar more similar to ios 7
17)White keyboard (i know is difficult try to modify the keyboard on ios 3.1.3)
18) An Overclock button for more performance during the game
19) Pull to refresh in mail app :)
Finshed. I'm sorry if I wrong something somewhere but i'm italian and I tried to do my better in this post. Go Whited00r  ;) (and go developers  :D)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 02, 2014, 10:10:12 PM
/\ for the camera animation when opening ( for iPhone 4 ) it's just a black screen until the camera opens I think that's what Whited00r should do it will make the camera less Laggy and look more like ios 7
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 03, 2014, 02:59:22 AM
My suggestions are :
1) Fix the white text on a white background (I think is possible but i'm not sure)
2) Notification center (we can't use lockinfo because there are some problems with WD7)
3) Calendar icon more similar to ios 7 calendar icon
4) Remove from the AppTimeMachine the apps which don't work (example Gravity guy in the Game section)
5) Fix Whatsapp bug (if you open it you automatically you lose all your contacts :()
6) Power off slider more similiar to ios 7.1
7) Favorites and recent contacts in the multitasking switcher like in ios 8 (it would be really cool :P)
8 ) "Delete" the old animation of camera. When you open it in WD 7.1+ there is the ios 6 animation (in ios 7 and 8 there isn't that kind of animation but a simple blur effect)
9) Weather app more similar to ios 7
10) Resolve the bug of the maps app (if you click on localization button it crash)
11) Try to make a better round switches (little more bigger)
12) Modify youtube app because it's pretty buggy and ugly
13) Fix calculator bug ( if you rotate the idevice and click on C the AC button is bad)
14) Photo and video in the same app (Camera... :-X)
15) Safari options in the settings (in WD7.1+ is not possible disable javascript in safari)
16) Status bar more similar to ios 7
17)White keyboard (i know is difficult try to modify the keyboard on ios 3.1.3)
18) An Overclock button for more performance during the game
19) Pull to refresh in mail app :)
Finshed. I'm sorry if I wrong something somewhere but i'm italian and I tried to do my better in this post. Go Whited00r  ;) (and go developers  :D)


Welcome to the forums :)

1.  We are trying, but there are some places we simply cannot. These include root apps, like iFile and Cydia, and then apps that customize certain UI elements to modify it themselves for a different look, or else don't follow the generic system methods for creating nav bars and such.
2. We have all the elements for this, just not put together. It is still being debated about if we will make it a paid tweak or not (you do get all of whited00r for free ;) )
4. You can report apps that don't work to them, although it could be the install method or the UI tweak that causes the crash. (Test in safemode, and installed from iTunes to rule those out)
5. I think installing the latest patch fixes this, it is a contacts permissions issue from what I know. (I can't personally test as I don't have whatsapp)
6. Would be nice, but we do have a lot on the list of things to do ;)
8. That would be rather easy, I think. It may not though because of how complex the iris is...
10. That's a bug with the UI tweak we are working on fixing :) (location services are broken on 3.1.3 anyway aside from the iPhone 3G because of the GPS module)
11. The round switches are the best we could manage for the moment, there really isn't anything to mess with on them that isn't affected further down the line graphically by the system.
12. Nothing much can be done for that, it is pretty much all there will be.
15. This is a minor bug with just a small bit of the .plist missing for the settings app. No worries on that being fixed :)
16. Because of how 3.1.3 handles the status bar, we can't really make it more like iOS 7 :(
18. There is no way to overclock iOS devices. You could just enter safemode if you want more speed ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: 3DayTheory on July 03, 2014, 03:17:46 AM
the only suggestion i have is to make the music app look like ios 7/8's
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 03, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
1.Edit alarm UI is horrible {if you don't understand i will paste picture}
2.Add option on atm to refresh page and make less laggy/buggy...
3.Make music app more like ios 7 because this white is broke/tease the eye
4.Make camera,video switcher like ios7?
5.Make video recorder less laggy{if you can  :)}
6.Make battery more stronger {in whited00r 5 was really good,you can team :B}
7.Make power off like to ios 7 {if you can}
8.Edit the UI indicator sound when volume up and down
9.Edit safemod {i was found one;when you apply config in whited00r setting and you have password enabled and cancel the phone go to safe mod}
10.Make icons more like ios 7 {if you can}
11.Make ios 8 notification {if you can}
12.Edit the battery indicator because is black when charging
13.Centre the battery when charg in lock screen
14.Edit the phone bg color because when you safe the number and name the name is goes down very {i will post picture if you don't understand}
15.Edit the ipod more because is not points out as
16.Edit iTunes app.When you play music after X second restart {if you can}
17.Edit calculator because is very uglu
18.Edit calendar icon {if you can}
19.Edit weather {if you can}
20.Fix the picture bug.When you apply picture in photos app at homescreen picture are blur but when you apply at setting is normal{I mean when you apply a picture to homescreen}
21.Make Sara less laggy{i don't use it but if you can  :D}
22.Add App store icon and App time machine icon
23.If you can increase sound because is low for me.HUH  ???
24.Make passcod UI more like ios 7.The 3g has 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
you can make smaller than the screen if you can of course
25.Make replica of notification centre {if you can,hmmm maybe not but we shall see}
26.Make answer or dismiss when you call to more like ios 7{if you can}
27.And last yes i now is bug but will you try to fix the UI in default app like messages,alarm,deleting application and etc.
Have a nice day and nice work in whited00r 8  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Cr1s714n1999 on July 04, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
Welcome to the forums :)

1.  We are trying, but there are some places we simply cannot. These include root apps, like iFile and Cydia, and then apps that customize certain UI elements to modify it themselves for a different look, or else don't follow the generic system methods for creating nav bars and such.
2. We have all the elements for this, just not put together. It is still being debated about if we will make it a paid tweak or not (you do get all of whited00r for free ;) )
4. You can report apps that don't work to them, although it could be the install method or the UI tweak that causes the crash. (Test in safemode, and installed from iTunes to rule those out)
5. I think installing the latest patch fixes this, it is a contacts permissions issue from what I know. (I can't personally test as I don't have whatsapp)
6. Would be nice, but we do have a lot on the list of things to do ;)
8. That would be rather easy, I think. It may not though because of how complex the iris is...
10. That's a bug with the UI tweak we are working on fixing :) (location services are broken on 3.1.3 anyway aside from the iPhone 3G because of the GPS module)
11. The round switches are the best we could manage for the moment, there really isn't anything to mess with on them that isn't affected further down the line graphically by the system.
12. Nothing much can be done for that, it is pretty much all there will be.
15. This is a minor bug with just a small bit of the .plist missing for the settings app. No worries on that being fixed :)
16. Because of how 3.1.3 handles the status bar, we can't really make it more like iOS 7 :(
18. There is no way to overclock iOS devices. You could just enter safemode if you want more speed ;)
Thank you for the answer Bruan.I think your team will do its better to fix all bug or error in the next Whited00r version.P.s Really there is no way to overclock ios devices? here there is something --> http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index?topic=6648.0
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 04, 2014, 06:56:58 PM
Later down that thread, they say it is just a placebo. It doesn't actually do anything :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on July 04, 2014, 09:50:55 PM
My goodness, that list is long. :o
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 05, 2014, 06:24:30 AM
My goodness, that list is long. :o

Especially on a thread that was about not putting suggestions up just for feature requests ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 05, 2014, 07:29:29 AM
Well I want to try to help make whited00r a little buggy and more user friendly.Have a nice day  :)
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 07, 2014, 12:20:41 PM
How about all the new UISounds like the new charging sound and turn off is slightly different
All you need is a jail broken ios 7 device you need to go to Root>System>Library>Audio>UISounds and then replace the old ones with the new
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: DannyPhan on July 12, 2014, 04:58:30 AM
I have some suggestions for WD8:
- Assistive Touch's Home Button can be pressed twice, because to enable App Switcher, you have to press Home Button twice.
- I know it's hard to do, I'd like the passcode lock to be nicer. And can you enable long passcode, not just 4-digits passcode.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 12, 2014, 05:46:47 AM
I have some suggestions for WD8:
- Assistive Touch's Home Button can be pressed twice, because to enable App Switcher, you have to press Home Button twice.
- I know it's hard to do, I'd like the passcode lock to be nicer. And can you enable long passcode, not just 4-digits passcode.

Assistive touch is on the list of things we want to improve :)  (along with lots of other things)

We can change the skin on the keypad/passcode, and enabling an alphanumeric passcode is possible (not sure if it works on WD7 though), not sure about a longer non-alphanumeric passcode though...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 14, 2014, 03:23:55 AM
Would it be a bad idea to have an invert color option like in iOS 6/7 by triple clicking the home button and or the grayscale option in iOS 8

If u can only do one ill rather the grayscale because it saves battery life
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 14, 2014, 07:41:01 AM
Would it be a bad idea to have an invert color option like in iOS 6/7 by triple clicking the home button and or the grayscale option in iOS 8

If u can only do one ill rather the grayscale because it saves battery life

That would take a drastic toll on the CPU to invert the whole screen :( It is built into newer firmwares, but that probably uses the same sort of "magic" that the live blur uses. It could even be relying entirely on newer frameworks and such that can only ever work with newer hardware (such as OpenGles 2.0).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 14, 2014, 02:29:23 PM
Sorry for wrong information
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 14, 2014, 07:57:08 PM
itechy and Luka I'm really sorry I forgot about this sorry
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 15, 2014, 03:54:38 AM
itechy and Luka I'm really sorry I forgot about this sorry

No worries, something to remember for next time eh? :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 15, 2014, 06:24:55 AM
iTechy;Bruan i am remember when apple release iOS 8 officially you will work and release WD 8.I apologize for the confusion again  ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on July 16, 2014, 01:18:14 AM
How about an empty place since  whited00r ate?

(Eight, 8, ate, get it? :D)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 16, 2014, 06:12:48 AM
iTechy;Bruan i am remember when apple release iOS 8 officially you will work and release WD 8.I apologize for the confusion again  ::)

Well, that's not official even. That's when iOS 8 gets released to the public, which is really to be fair when the development should actually begin for whited00r 8, not when it should be released ;)  However, we really go by our own schedule, so whenever it is done and ready to be released is when that happens.

How about an empty place since  whited00r ate?

(Eight, 8, ate, get it? :D)

Aye, whited00r 7 ate 9. :p
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on July 16, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
I have two ideas but I think the second would be easier to implement.
1. Run the whited00r setup tool on first boot (well really third after all the reboots :P ) and then have the dylib that does that uninstall itself once done freeing up space.

2. Create a preference bundle telling the user what version of whited00r they are running. It could be really simple and just adds a nice little touch and makes it easier to debug. (it could be placed in Settings -> General -> About Whited00r)
Laid out something like this

Whited00r version: 7.1.4
[Custom whited00r legal stuff]
[Cell that links to credits (Offline preferably)]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: leon122 on July 16, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
I know this probably has been asked way to many times :-X but one thing i absolutely love about iOS 7 is the folders. I know that since there not the same folders as the newer versions of iOS have but folders would be an AMAZING thing to have. You guys already blew my mind when you made whited00r 6..... then whited00r 7 came and i just blew up at how good it was.
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 16, 2014, 07:28:43 PM
I know this probably has been asked way to many times :-X but one thing i absolutely love about iOS 7 is the folders. I know that since there not the same folders as the newer versions of iOS have but folders would be an AMAZING thing to have. You guys already blew my mind when you made whited00r 6..... then whited00r 7 came and i just blew up at how good it was.
The folders in ios 7 are amazing I would love to see this added in to WD8
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on July 16, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
The folders in ios 7 are amazing I would love to see this added in to WD8
It may be possible but it would require making a new tweak (and the previous developer left and didn't leave the source code :( ) for these folders and animations in ios 3 are pretty much non-existent :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 16, 2014, 09:05:40 PM


I really won't mind about the animation but it would be nice to have the full page affect with 9 icons on each page with 5 or 10 pages
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: leon122 on July 16, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
As long as they would look like iOS 7 that would be amazing :) animations don't matter much at all.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Appletechtim on July 18, 2014, 10:42:36 AM
Beter multitasking not. more
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on July 18, 2014, 11:19:51 AM

Beter multitasking not. more
I think the multitasking is pretty good right now, but that's just an opinion
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 19, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
What do you think a section in ATM for ios 3 apps that are themed to look like ios 7 I will theme some apps and submit them when I get home from vacation on Thursday
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 20, 2014, 05:42:51 AM
What do you think a section in ATM for ios 3 apps that are themed to look like ios 7 I will theme some apps and submit them when I get home from vacation on Thursday

I don't know, perhaps there should be a different solution for that, like a post-install method of installing a theme, so the app doesn't need to be constantly updated server side, as well as require the app to be re-installed each time (loosing data as well each re-install), just in order to get a different theme.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: noob on July 21, 2014, 03:28:42 AM
can you guys make something like liveclock? alos the spotlight search and a notification center
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: 3DayTheory on July 21, 2014, 04:40:31 AM
can you guys make something like liveclock? alos the spotlight search and a notification center


Quote
"Notification center would be nice, and we do have all the pieces, just not put together for that.  We would want to do it very nicely and professionally, so it feels right to use and doesn't slow down the device or act funky (kind of like the iOS 7 App Switcher acts funky). - Bruan"

and also, i think there is a liveclock like feature in Cydia
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 21, 2014, 05:38:47 AM
There is a live clock feature in Cydia, partially the reason we do not include it in whited00r.
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 22, 2014, 02:29:06 AM
Since iOS 8 bata 4 rolled out today they changed around control center a little bit (some people like it some do not) so the new one would be default in WD8 but in WD settings you can go back to ios 7 Control Center if you want.

There is also a new tips app so since basically we all know how to use an iPhone by now ,the tips app should be new features whitedoor has added ,or just tips on how to use the device basically just for looks :)

Third and probably stupid ...I notecard in settings brightness and bold text option now has a shortcut on the main page which looks like [Aa] and it's blue ,in WD 8 since it would be really dumb to move brightness ( since it's still located in wallpapers and brightness in the real ios 8 )  we could make that tab a WD change log which displays all the changes in the most recent update.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 22, 2014, 02:33:46 AM
Here What it looks like
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: mhveinvp on July 22, 2014, 12:11:33 PM
Hello.
Its me again.
This time i have a few suggestions.
1. Tips app. The latest ios 8 beta introduced a standalone tips app which is supposed to teach users some basic stuff. Here at WD, we definately need one because just look at the forums and how many "how to" posts exist. All the way from cracking apps via clutch and inserting the push certificate.
We do need it.
2. WD browser. To replace safari because i simply have stopped using it and im sure everyone else has too. Replacement? The in-app browsers found in apps the likes of twitter and those download managers. Those browsers work but safari doesnt. What im saying is take the in-app browser and turn it into a safari replacement.
3. There exists a setting of restrictions. A tab of "app store" exists there. Because app store is broken for 3.1.3, i suggest is to hook it to hide atm app instead. Why? The same reason apple put the hide app store in the first place.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on July 22, 2014, 01:15:57 PM
Hello.
Its me again.
This time i have a few suggestions.
1. Tips app. The latest ios 8 beta introduced a standalone tips app which is supposed to teach users some basic stuff. Here at WD, we definately need one because just look at the forums and how many "how to" posts exist. All the way from cracking apps via clutch and inserting the push certificate.
We do need it.
2. WD browser. To replace safari because i simply have stopped using it and im sure everyone else has too. Replacement? The in-app browsers found in apps the likes of twitter and those download managers. Those browsers work but safari doesnt. What im saying is take the in-app browser and turn it into a safari replacement.
3. There exists a setting of restrictions. A tab of "app store" exists there. Because app store is broken for 3.1.3, i suggest is to hook it to hide atm app instead. Why? The same reason apple put the hide app store in the first place.
1. The tips app seems like a good idea it would be a nice way to give ideas on how to use whited00r and hopefully it will be removable via cydia which there would be a tutorial within the app and we could contain other ios hidden features.
2. The only thing is that the Java engine for Safari is faster than any of the other browsers. But you can download other browsers from app time machine (opera mini is quite good).
3. The App Store is already hidden and is replaced with app time machine.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 23, 2014, 02:54:46 AM
Hello.
Its me again.
This time i have a few suggestions.
1. Tips app. The latest ios 8 beta introduced a standalone tips app which is supposed to teach users some basic stuff. Here at WD, we definately need one because just look at the forums and how many "how to" posts exist. All the way from cracking apps via clutch and inserting the push certificate.
We do need it.
2. WD browser. To replace safari because i simply have stopped using it and im sure everyone else has too. Replacement? The in-app browsers found in apps the likes of twitter and those download managers. Those browsers work but safari doesnt. What im saying is take the in-app browser and turn it into a safari replacement.
3. There exists a setting of restrictions. A tab of "app store" exists there. Because app store is broken for 3.1.3, i suggest is to hook it to hide atm app instead. Why? The same reason apple put the hide app store in the first place.

1. Tips app would be nice, even nicer if we could get the mobile version of the forums working so we could just use a web view so there is no need to update the application every time we update a tutorial.  That, or put the tutorials on the more responsive main site, under a special section for browsing them.  That may be a better solution...  Perhaps as a pre-added bookmark on the device would be a nicer solution, so then it is quick and easy to remove that bookmark.

2. Those use the same backend engine as Safari, although as iTechy21 pointed out, they use a slower javascript engine. Not sure why they would work where safari doesn't though :o

3. I don't really understand what you mean for the first bit, but the second bit already is in Whited00r 7.1. The App Store is hidden and can be launched via the App Time Machine instead (which now has the App Store name and icon)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Sir Roven on July 24, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
Please i dont know of this is possible but make round switch more fluid and fast and make default on wd8.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on July 24, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
Please i dont know of this is possible but make round switch more fluid and fast and make default on wd8.
I don't think it is possible as the switches are rendered when they appear requiring a lot of CPU usage which these devices cannot handle.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 25, 2014, 02:33:56 PM
Do you think this could be possible ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on July 25, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
Do you think this could be possible ?
I wouldn't think so as Safari is closed source :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 25, 2014, 07:32:58 PM

I wouldn't think so as Safari is closed source :(

Do u think we can get the ios 7 style cover flow in music or is that also closed source ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: 3DayTheory on July 25, 2014, 08:12:55 PM

Do u think we can get the ios 7 style cover flow in music or is that also closed source ?

everything in stock OS is closed source. Bruan told me a while back that if they did something like that, they'd have to do it from scratch  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 26, 2014, 07:10:28 AM
everything in stock OS is closed source. Bruan told me a while back that if they did something like that, they'd have to do it from scratch  ;)

Exactly ;) Any feature whited00r has, it was built from scratch and is not the actual feature from a higher iOS version.  We had to figure out how to make a replica of the end result to get the look and feel of the feature, but it isn't actual a native feature.  We are still always limited by what the device and iOS version itself can handle both hardware and API wise, and there are just some things we cannot do :(  (either because of time, or else hardware/software limitations)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on July 26, 2014, 03:23:54 PM
Can you change the App Store icon to make it look fabulous? (even though it's hidden)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on July 26, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
I don't think it is possible as the switches are rendered when they appear requiring a lot of CPU usage which these devices cannot handle.

Sorry if this is a n00b answer, but couldn't you just have used a theme or something? If I can recall i am pretty sure I saw a theme for rounded switches on cydia
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 26, 2014, 04:58:31 PM
My suggestion is to fix the general bugs{if you can of course} :-X.Have a nice day
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 27, 2014, 06:18:10 AM
Sorry if this is a n00b answer, but couldn't you just have used a theme or something? If I can recall i am pretty sure I saw a theme for rounded switches on cydia

That requires winter board which is rather heavy on the system :(

My suggestion is to fix the general bugs{if you can of course} :-X.Have a nice day

That is our first goal, before doing any of the feature creation. :) Stable is what we aim for, as well as fast. Features are the last on the list, although it would be stable if there were no features :P  So we find the mix, and work with that.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: 3DayTheory on July 27, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
this is offtopic, but i love the new avatar Bruan  8)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 28, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
this is offtopic, but i love the new avatar Bruan  8)

Haha thank you, I probably spent way too much time on it  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on July 30, 2014, 02:50:36 AM
Would it be possible to have the device not lock when using control center in the lock screen ( or use the 1 minute if device is not touched) this would be very useful especially when using the flashlight
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 31, 2014, 04:50:11 AM
Would it be possible to have the device not lock when using control center in the lock screen ( or use the 1 minute if device is not touched) this would be very useful especially when using the flashlight

Eventually, yes. We hope so. ;)  However, when that happens, we don't know.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on July 31, 2014, 10:06:09 AM
Hello my suggestions again  ;D is to add zoom on camera and video app if you can and make music app more like ios 7/8.Cheers
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: noob on July 31, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
things i want to see in whited00r a notification center  the spotlight search from ios 7  an app to free memory and new desings and all that new stuff it is posible?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on July 31, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
Hello my suggestions again  ;D is to add zoom on camera and video app if you can and make music app more like ios 7/8.Cheers

You do realize the zoom would be so horribly pixilated there is no point right? These devices already only have 1.2mp to 3mp cameras as far as I know.
Even zooming on an 8mp camera gets pretty nasty...

We want to make the music app look good first, and fix the graphical bugs it currently has.

things i want to see in whited00r a notification center  the spotlight search from ios 7  an app to free memory and new desings and all that new stuff it is posible?

Many things are possible, it is just a matter of time available and resources available.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on August 01, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
things i want to see in whited00r a notification center

If you want to see a notification center is easy, get lockinfo cydia tweak, google search an ios 3 version of it.

I think mit0 has it?  http://cydia.myrepospace.com/Mit0/  thats the cydia source
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on August 04, 2014, 07:41:00 AM
A nice idea would be to have an app time machine service page (full of information on upcoming downtime or any issues that are being resolved) like the one microsoft have for xbox live here (http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-live-status)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on August 04, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
Should implement this as default

http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,10662.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on August 04, 2014, 07:35:31 PM
Should implement this as default

http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,10662.0.html
We already do :P (partially)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on August 04, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
Should implement this as default

http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,10662.0.html

That is actually partially included in whited00r where it worked well for other elements of changes made, and he also helped with some extra graphic work too :)
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 07, 2014, 12:44:57 AM
Changes to backgrounder instead of holding down the home button so it stays open it just keeps the last 3 apps open unless if you close it in app switcher. With this you should be able to have Siri and backgrounder on at the same time and it will be more iOS 7 like.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on August 07, 2014, 05:20:47 AM
Changes to backgrounder instead of holding down the home button so it stays open it just keeps the last 3 apps open unless if you close it in app switcher. With this you should be able to have Siri and backgrounder on at the same time and it will be more iOS 7 like.

Except some people would want to do the manual backgrounding/quitting of backgrounding apps, and it really isn't that good for speed. Certain apps you really wouldn't want to run in the background at all and so on :(  Also, backgrounder does not provide options to do that, and even as is the iOS 7 App Switcher (which we can change the code for), does not support backgrounder.  (the only way we could quit out of every app aside from the last 3)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 08, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
Alright how about instead of holding the home button you swipe up in control center and where "air drop" is could be backgrounding on ( or off )
And the ATM should always be open so you can down lose apps while not being in the app
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on August 09, 2014, 05:28:03 AM
Alright how about instead of holding the home button you swipe up in control center and where "air drop" is could be backgrounding on ( or off )
And the ATM should always be open so you can down lose apps while not being in the app

Backgrounding the App Time Machine could cause issues....  Which is why they don't allow it. Same reason you cannot background Cydia I think (causes issues, although maybe for slightly different reasons actually?).

Not sure about the backgrounding, it really is a niche thing and is not good for performance :(  It would require more fiddling around with the settings and checking the states of what is enabled and disabled and so on, and would slow down the control center because it would have to tell if it can use the backgrounding button in the app or not and thus show and hide it based on the app that is open.  Yes, it is possible, we already have methods of checking the app that is open and executing certain code based on that (coloring of the UI tweak in clock, calendar and music)....  Again though, it would slow down the opening and closing :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Arslantule on August 09, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
first remove all bug of WD7.1
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on August 09, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
first remove all bug of WD7.1

That would take a long time, they don't have that much time, people are demanding for new ios so they have to keep up with demands (I think)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Arslantule on August 10, 2014, 01:54:43 PM
make ios8 without bugs ok
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 10, 2014, 04:52:16 PM

make ios8 without bugs ok
It's not actually ios 8 it's a heavily modded and themed version of 3.1.3 and it's is extremely hard fro the WD Team to make it bug free, they are a small team of developers who are working for FREE and these guys also have lives they can't be working on WD 24/7 and they are also working on other projects like Grayd00r (DO NOT START FOURMS ON GRAYDOOR)
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 10, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
1.The ios 7 share center would be cool just bring back the WD6 Sharing menu and just change the images around :)

2. I had just realized the app names on the home screen is slightly bigger on ios 7, is there a way to make the text a little bit bigger ?

3. Do u think it's a good idea to bring back the fake newsstand ios 7 themed of corse and possible a fake passbook app?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on August 11, 2014, 06:19:55 AM
It's not actually ios 8 it's a heavily modded and themed version of 3.1.3 and it's is extremely hard fro the WD Team to make it bug free, they are a small team of developers who are working for FREE and these guys also have lives they can't be working on WD 24/7 and they are also working on other projects like Grayd00r (DO NOT START FOURMS ON GRAYDOOR)

This is pretty much head on for it.  That being said, we actually are looking to fix up bugs before working on new features, so we at least have a stable base to start work on.

1.The ios 7 share center would be cool just bring back the WD6 Sharing menu and just change the images around :)

2. I had just realized the app names on the home screen is slightly bigger on ios 7, is there a way to make the text a little bit bigger ?

3. Do u think it's a good idea to bring back the fake newsstand ios 7 themed of corse and possible a fake passbook app?

1. That was really horribly buggy, pretty much the same level of bugginess as the iOS 7 App Switcher and Sara :(  A big memory hog as well, which is the main reason we removed it.

2. Not sure, maybe. I know we tried to make icons bigger but it messed up animations :(

3. No, we prefer not to have apps that don't actually do anything.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: playftw on August 11, 2014, 02:15:31 PM
Hi I am new to the forums.

I suggest Notification Cneter! I am using LockInfo with an iOS5 theme to it and it looks awesome but maybe you guys can edit the theme to look more transparent and blurry? Maybe add music controls and interactive notifications like what some other guys have said.

I actually used to be a heavy iPod touch 1g whited00r user but over the updates, my iPod keeps getting slower and slower so I bought myself a preowned iPT2g MC version and I tested WD7. Man, it was slow and I couldn't get the whited0r repo you are suposed to get built in for WD7. I reverted back to iOS 4.2.1 and happily using it, maybe I will upgrade to WD8 when it comes out. Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on August 11, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
possible a fake passbook app?

I think there is a web app that someone posted that is a fake passbook.
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 11, 2014, 05:36:32 PM
Your long paragraph
You probs installed it wrong PS. You can't restore from a back up, for me it's faster then my iphone 4 (sometimes)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: myiphone 3g on August 12, 2014, 01:38:44 AM
I Want an option for change the white color for the name´s app to black
let you this for you can understand me  ;)

(http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10187.0;attach=2425;image)
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 12, 2014, 11:37:08 AM
I Want an option for change the white color for the name´s app to black
let you this for you can understand me  ;)
And the time on the lock screen


I had realized on ios 8 we are missing the green bubble wallpaper and the rainbow black one does not exist but it's cool I like it
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 13, 2014, 08:55:15 AM
I saw this other fake firmware for 3.1.3 it's called Archetype,WD should implement some of the more useful things in archetype like D00r cloud as a fake iCloud backup since Dropbox is no longer supported with 3.1.3, Do not disturb,and the the iOS 6-7 settings layout.
And about the WD6 sharing menu since it was SOO buggy it should be an optional option in WD settings :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on August 13, 2014, 04:18:12 PM
Good idea or bad
D00r cloud as a fake iCloud backup since Dropbox is no longer supported with 3.1.3
I still don't understand why my Dropbox from ATM work for me but not you? ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on August 13, 2014, 04:19:47 PM

I still don't understand why my Dropbox from ATM work for me but not you? ???
It works ! I will have to try again .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on August 13, 2014, 11:23:50 PM
Something's that I would really like to see is interactive notification, a new multitasking interface like the one in ios 8, and these ones next might be impossible but I would like a health book app somehow, and the safari new tab thing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on August 21, 2014, 06:25:02 AM
And the time on the lock screen


I had realized on ios 8 we are missing the green bubble wallpaper and the rainbow black one does not exist but it's cool I like it

Would be nice, I'll see what I can do based on the wallpaper major coloring and shading to automatically adjust the color of the text.

I saw this other fake firmware for 3.1.3 it's called Archetype,WD should implement some of the more useful things in archetype like D00r cloud as a fake iCloud backup since Dropbox is no longer supported with 3.1.3, Do not disturb,and the the iOS 6-7 settings layout.
And about the WD6 sharing menu since it was SOO buggy it should be an optional option in WD settings :)

Not a fake firmware, just something I played around with when learning a while ago. Has not been updated for around 2 years from what I remember.  Whited00r actually has what was going to be an updated archetype in some of its features (the whited00r settings for one). I did not include other things though, as they are outdated in how they work and I wanted to do things properly with whited00r 7 rather than the other sort of hackey methods I used before in Archetype.

Quote
Something's that I would really like to see is interactive notification, a new multitasking interface like the one in ios 8, and these ones next might be impossible but I would like a health book app somehow, and the safari new tab thing.

Would be difficult to do, maybe for messages but really it remains to be seen.

Health book app would kind of not be possible at all, I mean, what could it connect to?  Even the current one relies on information from external accessories and apps to hook into existing iOS 8 API to gather information into one place.
Safari tabs like that would be very very heavy usage wise on the system sadly :(  (at least with the nice animations anyway)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Appletechtim on August 21, 2014, 09:19:04 AM
iOS 8 beta 5 has an New control center
And also healtkit, podcast, iBooks and THE tips app
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on August 27, 2014, 05:01:44 PM
Some new ringtones from ios7 or 8 will be nice :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on August 27, 2014, 10:43:02 PM
Some new ringtones from ios7 or 8 will be nice :)
There is an issue with that. Which is that the system partition doesn't have a lot of space left when you install whited00r in the first place... But we could look into it. (but there would be no point on the itouch 1G due the hardware)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on August 30, 2014, 08:05:03 PM
Would it be possible to have a better look for the lock screen passcode?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on August 30, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Ohh something that would be really nice to see would be the old iCloud app (that used Dropbox) to be updated to support the newer API....
And as for the passcode screen it would still be the same size as the one in iOS 3 which would look weird proportion wise...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Cr1s714n1999 on September 06, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
I have a few "new" suggestions for WD 8. I know, maybe, it's too late to implement new things in the firmware but you could implement in the future, always if they are possible.
Suggestions:
1) Hdr and a kind of panoramic option (there are a few apps compatibles with ios 3 which do this simply by     combining multiple pictures)
2) New graphics for the weather application, you can a cue from here --> http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index?topic=11907.0
3) Make a new phone dialer, i saw a beatifull dialer theme here, you could implement it-->http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,11828.30.html
4) Fix the bug in note app that when you hold pressed the finger on the screen for swipe in the text, inside the magnifying glass appears the old texture of note application (ios 6 texture)
5) Make a refresh button in ATM  :)
6) Make a new testure in calculator app too, if you rotate the phone it's pretty ugly
7) A new design for the stock app
8) A kind of air drop ( i know apple say it is a hardware issue, but if you can enable it on the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 maybe you can do something also for iphone2/3g and ipod 1/2g...Do not worry it's not a vital thing but it's always handy when it is between friends ;))
9) New calendar icon
10) New clock app design
11) Make five circles with regard to the graphics of the phone reception( excuse me if I have explained myself badly :'()
That's all for my suggestions. Those are just suggestions, do not worry too much because they do not a
detract anything from the great work done by you until now. Thank you for your attention :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 07, 2014, 05:04:06 AM
Thanks for the suggestions (and pointers on how some of them could be done, as the first post asks for :) )

1) That would be pretty intensive to do, especially everywhere on iOS as the current camera theme does. It would have to run on top of other applications, instead of in an app dedicated just to camera and the HDR photos. Perhaps if we made it just for the stock camera app and not the other apps that take pictures/upload pictures from the camera.  That being said, I don't know any of the algorithms and such that go into making a HDR photo, especially not any for 3.1.3 :s

2) Maybe, I think we did attempt a new theme at one point but that didn't pan out :(

3) We also did have a nice dialer during testing, even with the subtle blur behind the buttons of the wallpaper when pressed, but it was buggy and didn't look so good overall for more of the device when used :(

4) I'm not sure what causes that, it may be something in the UIKit or the actual code of the app itself which would mean a lot more poking around and reversing classes which takes a lot of time for a one case graphic bug (so not really worth it time wise, unless everything else is finally fixed).

5) It wouldn't do much good seeing the results from the ATM are currently random and have no rhyme or reason. I am hoping the team there finally implements some sort of paging system instead of just a refresh button, so it can actually be done in a logical manner ;)

6) I'll take a look at that and see what can be done, although if it is iOS 7 or iOS 8 styled, it won't be changed :(

7) Who uses that? :o  I don't know how much can be changed without a tweak, which we try and not go too heavy on when possible...

8 ) It isn't possible because hardware issues ;) Even the iPhone 4 and 4s can't do it as far as I know, because they don't have the hardware for it... If you can point me to an article about where they do I would be interested in that though (always learning!). Anyway, it also requires iOS 7, which means it is private API and all that (anything that requires a higher firmware cannot be done at all on older firmwares because nothing is open source, and the hardware limitations as well :P ).

9) I think there may be one somewhere on the forums that I saw, or else it required a tweak to modify the text color...

10) we already did slightly modify it via the UI tweak in general, but I do know it needs some work to make it look nicer. :/

11) We tried to do that before but it ended up shoving icons around in the status bar when more and more icons showed up there (wifi, vpn, location, etc)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Cr1s714n1999 on September 07, 2014, 09:31:52 AM
Hi Bruan.
1) i don' know if this can help, but there are two apps i use for HDR and pano functions: 7mpx camera and 360 panoramatic, if is it possible you can see how they do that and you could reply in WD  ;)
5) A paging system would be amazing instead of the refresh button you're right   :-[
8 )I read on apple suuport page two or three months ago that the reason why airdrop isn't compatible with iphone 4/4s and ipad 2/3 it's because they have wifi's cards incompatible with airdrop. I wasn't sure of that so i decided to look for it on the net; i founded i cydia's tweak called airdrop enabler ios 7.0+ on biteyourapple's repo. Could you get ideas from this tweak or something like that?  :)
11) I saw someone here, on the forum, who posted an image where he had five circles on the status bar --> http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index?topic=10413.0
Thank you for your attention :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 08, 2014, 01:23:28 AM
I n safari when changing pages the back ground is gray so I changed it to black and it looks really nice so it may not be a bad idea to implement this in to WD 8
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 08, 2014, 07:12:50 AM
Hi Bruan.
1) i don' know if this can help, but there are two apps i use for HDR and pano functions: 7mpx camera and 360 panoramatic, if is it possible you can see how they do that and you could reply in WD  ;)
5) A paging system would be amazing instead of the refresh button you're right   :-[
8 )I read on apple suuport page two or three months ago that the reason why airdrop isn't compatible with iphone 4/4s and ipad 2/3 it's because they have wifi's cards incompatible with airdrop. I wasn't sure of that so i decided to look for it on the net; i founded i cydia's tweak called airdrop enabler ios 7.0+ on biteyourapple's repo. Could you get ideas from this tweak or something like that?  :)
11) I saw someone here, on the forum, who posted an image where he had five circles on the status bar --> http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index?topic=10413.0
Thank you for your attention :D

1) Like I said above, it isn't just about the whole getting it working, it is getting it working with enough system resources to work in every app that can preview the camera and take a picture (twitter, Facebook, messaging, email, etc). Also, all apps are closed source unless for whatever reason they put up their source code on github (not very often for full featured apps to be honest, especially not if they were paid).  So that rules out seeing how they did it :(

5) Yeah, I think that has been in the plans for a while, but they just have not sorted out yet on how to do that :/  Hopefully someday they will, at least they made a step ahead with the native app though! :)

8) I think most people are saying it only works on the iPad 3G (which is what it was meant for). It still requires iOS 7 even if it isn't a hardware limitation (which is really is, at least from the reviews of the iPhone 4 and 4s trying to use it), and the API that came with it. So there is no hope of anything working with airdrop on older devices/firmwares.

11)  Not sure about that, it may have the issues we were having where it shoved images around when more icons were in the status bar. They also never responded about how they did it :/

I n safari when changing pages the back ground is gray so I changed it to black and it looks really nice so it may not be a bad idea to implement this in to WD 8

We will play around and see what we can do as well ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Superhitech on September 14, 2014, 05:03:36 PM
Notification center+widgets in notification center  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 14, 2014, 05:18:38 PM

Notification center+widgets in notification center  :D
I doubt there will ever be widgets in notification center they will have to program each app to have widgets and they just don't have time for that
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on September 14, 2014, 05:25:17 PM

I doubt there will ever be widgets in notification center they will have to program each app to have widgets and they just don't have time for that
+1 Awnsered what I was going to put ;)
The widgets are app by app so developers have a framework for iOS 8 todo that and we can't back port frameworks :(

But Notification Center is a thing we are talking about...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 20, 2014, 08:08:48 PM
In ios 7 the background in maps are black and in WD it is white do you think it can be changed to black ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 21, 2014, 04:08:50 AM
In ios 7 the background in maps are black and in WD it is white do you think it can be changed to black ?

For when the satellite images are loading?
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 21, 2014, 11:25:50 AM
For when the satellite images are loading?
that too but the 2 bars on the top and bottom of the screen

Wait I just found out it's only like that for satellite  which will make it useless if it's black so never mind just the loading squares are black
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 21, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
that too but the 2 bars on the top and bottom of the screen

Wait I just found out it's only like that for satellite  which will make it useless if it's black so never mind just the loading squares are black

I was going to say, I haven't seen the black only navigation bars in the maps app, and I had just tried it on iOS 7.1.2 to see what you were talking about. 
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 21, 2014, 10:50:04 PM
Yeah it's in the satellight which I always have on, it probably won't be a good idea to change it to black for satellite because it would require a tweak which will be more he yet on the OS and it will be another useless thing to code
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 21, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Yeah it's in the satellight which I always have on, it probably won't be a good idea to change it to black for satellite because it would require a tweak which will be more he yet on the OS and it will be another useless thing to code

Satellite only mode?  Odd. I just re-tried it on my end and it did show up as black when in that mode now. It didn't do that yesterday :o
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 21, 2014, 11:01:46 PM
Satellite only mode?  Odd. I just re-tried it on my end and it did show up as black when in that mode now. It didn't do that yesterday :o
That is pretty weird ... I'm on iPhone 4 ios 7.1.2 so it could be minorly different from the 5S
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 22, 2014, 05:03:58 AM
That is pretty weird ... I'm on iPhone 4 ios 7.1.2 so it could be minorly different from the 5S

Well I did it again after starting the app with it in that mode and it was black. I don't know what was up there :o  Not a 5s, only a 5 :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on September 25, 2014, 08:22:42 AM
why dont we include whited00r version in settings>about it would look good  :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 27, 2014, 05:38:38 AM
why dont we include whited00r version in settings>about it would look good  :)

We did have something sort of like that in the beta testing, but it was removed shortly before release (not entirely sure why, but maybe it will come back in a future version).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 27, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
In WD8 the black bars that show the music controls should go now that we have the blurred screen it's in coreservices>springboard.app I did it and it looks really nice

Ps also the status bar can be changed to clear its in the same place with the name FSO_BG but it causes some problems in some apps
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 28, 2014, 05:33:03 AM
In WD8 the black bars that show the music controls should go now that we have the blurred screen it's in coreservices>springboard.app I did it and it looks really nice

Ps also the status bar can be changed to clear its in the same place with the name FSO_BG but it causes some problems in some apps

What black bars? The ones on the default lock screen while music is playing?  I couldn't find that image in the file system :s  I ended up overlaying the blurred background behind most things when the music controls show... I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise just on the default lock screen view :(
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 28, 2014, 12:25:21 PM
What black bars? The ones on the default lock screen while music is playing?  I couldn't find that image in the file system :s  I ended up overlaying the blurred background behind most things when the music controls show... I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise just on the default lock screen view :(
Yes the ones on the lock screen when music is playing
I belive I changed  SBLockScreenControlsLCD
SBLockScreenControlsHUD
I may of changed one more
SBWirelessModemLCDBG

In Root>System>Library>CoreServices>Springboard.App
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on September 29, 2014, 06:22:27 AM
So when the clock is showing it no longer has a black background with music playing?  :o

What about when charging?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 29, 2014, 11:35:44 PM

So when the clock is showing it no longer has a black background with music playing?  :o

What about when charging?
Idk what you mean by "clock" but when you are on the lock screen and you double tap the home button so the music controls there is a black transparent bar that shows up in the background of the music controls ... That's what I mean
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on September 30, 2014, 04:15:37 PM
can ios 7 style notification bar be added to wd 8
i have heard that it is quite possible  :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on September 30, 2014, 06:11:13 PM

can ios 7 style notification bar be added to wd 8
i have heard that it is quite possible  :)
WD will have to program a new status bar in many of apps because it is white on white text a lot
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on October 01, 2014, 07:32:39 AM
Idk what you mean by "clock" but when you are on the lock screen and you double tap the home button so the music controls there is a black transparent bar that shows up in the background of the music controls ... That's what I mean

Ohhhh I get what you are talking about, thank you very much for the image locations for that!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on October 03, 2014, 03:07:19 PM
I do think the round toggle is to big if we reduce the size and make it small it my be a hole lot faster and hey sara (while the device is charging
)
oh and a working sara (siri)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on October 04, 2014, 07:33:10 AM
I do think the round toggle is to big if we reduce the size and make it small it my be a hole lot faster and hey sara (while the device is charging
)
oh and a working sara (siri)

The size of the rounded toggles won't help the CPU load sadly, because of how the toggles are set up and used.

I don't think Sara is working any more, the server is apparently dead for everyone (external server not hosted by whited00r, just the tweak itself is used in it).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: NaTech27 on October 12, 2014, 07:11:25 AM
hi its my first time posting but my recommendation for whited00r 8 are :
-Own Health App  :D
-Live Multitasking  ;D
-its based on iOS 4 so it can support many apps   :-X ::)
-Sara line is moving while talking   ;D
-All Bugs would be fixed (hopefully)  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on October 12, 2014, 01:22:52 PM

hi its my first time posting but my recommendation for whited00r 8 are :
-Own Health App  :D
-Live Multitasking  ;D
-its based on iOS 4 so it can support many apps   :-X ::)
-Sara line is moving while talking   ;D
-All Bugs would be fixed (hopefully)  ;D
Whited00r won't make a health app as it serves no function ( whited00r does not like to make stuff that doesn't function ) and I think they are making a tip app though

Live multitasking will slow down the device so much it's not worth it but you can turn on backgrounder and it can give u a slight multitasking feature

Whited00r will never be ios 4 based it will be too much work for the WD team and if they ever do make an ios 4 based firmware it will be called something different, the WD team is working on something called Grayd00r which is for the iPad 1 and iPod 3

The Sara server is not hosted by whitedoor and I don't think it's working so the feature may be removed it they can't get it working

It will never be bug free as it will be extremely hard

I don't work for whited00r so there could be a slight change to the answer

Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on October 12, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
hi its my first time posting but my recommendation for whited00r 8 are :
-Own Health App  :D
-Live Multitasking  ;D
-its based on iOS 4 so it can support many apps   :-X ::)
-Sara line is moving while talking   ;D
-All Bugs would be fixed (hopefully)  ;D
Hello and welcome to the forum.Which @iPH0NE_3GS says the wd will no have own health app , live multitasking because this devices has too low ram and will slow down the device,ios 4 is really slow and if they based it iphone 2g and itouch 1g will have no support  :( and ios 4 is really slow for iphone 3g,itouch 2g because processor and ram..., sara server which iphone_3gs say is not supported by whited00r and will be laggy because this device are very old :/,and the bug will be fixed by team but not all..Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on October 17, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
Would it be possible to make it easier to close apps when using ios 7 multitasking? i find myself having to be rather precise each time when i want to close an app.  :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on October 18, 2014, 06:11:12 AM
Would it be possible to make it easier to close apps when using ios 7 multitasking? i find myself having to be rather precise each time when i want to close an app.  :(
I think we will be trying to fix it first as its completely broken on some devices... (like mine)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on October 18, 2014, 11:47:14 AM
Would it be possible to add pull down to refresh in the mail app and tap and hold to drop a pin in maps ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on October 18, 2014, 04:46:47 PM
Would it be possible to add pull down to refresh in the mail app and tap and hold to drop a pin in maps ?
Those would require tweaks which as we all know slow down the device and these apps are closed source... :( but I thought there was a refresh button at the bottom of the screen...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on October 19, 2014, 04:21:56 PM
Ok, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on October 23, 2014, 06:07:33 AM
Would it be possible to make it easier to close apps when using ios 7 multitasking? i find myself having to be rather precise each time when i want to close an app.  :(

Maybe, although they are already closed when you exit the app :p   That tweak and sara are the kind of buggier tweaks in whited00r :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on October 23, 2014, 01:17:32 PM
Maybe, although they are already closed when you exit the app :p   That tweak and sara are the kind of buggier tweaks in whited00r :(
I'm kinda the neat freak when it comes to multitasking. Even if the apps aren't running in the background, i feel like i got to clear them :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on October 23, 2014, 03:52:28 PM
how about notification center???  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on October 24, 2014, 07:33:16 AM
how about notification center???  :) :) :) :) :)

This has been discussed many times again and again. We have the basic components to make it, it is just finding the time to do so and deciding if it will be a free thing or a separate package in Cydia.
Title: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on October 29, 2014, 02:05:25 AM
I have a couple suggestions for the reminders app ... I know the developer for the reminders app has left but maby these few things can be accomplished
1. A black status bar
2. Swipe to delete reminders
3. Multaple pages of reminders
Some harder things
4. Set a date for the iPod to remind you ( sort of like calendar you should use some code from there)
5. Ios 7 style page switcher
6. When a reminder is completed it shows up in the completed page and removed from the default page
7. Closer ios 7 resemblance ,layout ,texture and feel
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on October 29, 2014, 07:40:57 AM
I have a couple suggestions for the reminders app ... I know the developer for the reminders app has left but maby these few things can be accomplished
1. A black status bar
2. Swipe to delete reminders
3. Multaple pages of reminders
Some harder things
4. Set a date for the iPod to remind you ( sort of like calendar you should use some code from there)
5. Ios 7 style page switcher
6. When a reminder is completed it shows up in the completed page and removed from the default page
7. Closer ios 7 resemblance ,layout ,texture and feel

I don't know, the developer(s?) is/are still around here and there, although no longer on the team, well, kind of and kind of not, it is rather confusing :(
May or may not be possible, we shall see.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on October 29, 2014, 12:42:24 PM
I don't know, the developer(s?) is/are still around here and there, although no longer on the team, well, kind of and kind of not, it is rather confusing :(
May or may not be possible, we shall see.
Well he's active on twitter....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on November 27, 2014, 05:18:38 PM
can we get the WD OTA updates in the settings app. just like original ios??  :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on November 27, 2014, 06:21:24 PM
To fix the general bug's.Hope to get new whited00r after Christmas.Cheers :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on November 27, 2014, 07:13:07 PM

To fix the general bug's.Hope to get new whited00r after Christmas.Cheers :)
You mean before Christmas right ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on November 28, 2014, 07:22:04 AM

can we get the WD OTA updates in the settings app. just like original ios??  :)
I was working on something to do this... But the hassle I had with bash I decided to abandon the project....
But IF it was going to be implemented it would be for patches and not full firmware updates
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on December 21, 2014, 02:57:23 AM
I was looking at some older whited00r videos and i saw that whited00r used to have a passcode that uses letters and not just numbers.
And I would also like to see the bookmark tabs not to open when you open safari.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on December 21, 2014, 05:53:35 AM
I was looking at some older whited00r videos and i saw that whited00r used to have a passcode that uses letters and not just numbers.
And I would also like to see the bookmark tabs not to open when you open safari.

The passcode may work, but with the custom lock screen as is we don't really know... It was a certificate you could install on the device to require more complex passcodes. (not sure how to enable that, aside from making a certificate with the Apple Configurator (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12), but even that may not support 3.1.3 any more).

Bookmarks may be easy, and there may even be a tweak for that...  (googling brought up no results though, only iOS 8 stuff).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on December 21, 2014, 01:36:18 PM


Bookmarks may be easy, and there may even be a tweak for that...  (googling brought up no results though, only iOS 8 stuff).

Same here i was googling and only found ios 7-8 stuff
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on December 21, 2014, 04:30:43 PM
i have a suggestion that is the support to combine
backgrounder with ios 7 app switcher .... cauz i love the ios 7 appswitcher but i also want multitasking on my idevice therefore i use the manual multitasking :P   8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: SimulaYOOO on December 24, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
My Suggestions is to make the calendar icon transparent like ios 7/8,clock animated,weather app more like ios 7,power off,and make pop-ups with another color because blue irritate the eye.This is for now Merry Christmas and Happy New Year  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on December 24, 2014, 08:45:06 AM
My Suggestions is to make the calendar icon transparent like ios 7/8,clock animated,weather app more like ios 7,power off,and make pop-ups with another color because blue irritate the eye.This is for now Merry Christmas and Happy New Year  ;)
u can change the icons ur self or personal msg me and i will send u the png files....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: kevs2295 on December 28, 2014, 03:40:00 AM
I was just wondering if you can
1. Fix the text bug.
2. Springboard crashes
3. Make a built-in Notification Center.
4. JUST OPTIONAL (if you can) ...... Interactive notifications :D
5. SPEEEEEEEEDDDD

JUST THOSE THINGS :D THANK YOU.

P.S. Just take your time in developing WD8.
We dont want a buggy firmware srsly. We want them gone. Any ways to improve speed???? :D 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on December 28, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
I was just wondering if you can
1. Fix the text bug.
2. Springboard crashes
3. Make a built-in Notification Center.
4. JUST OPTIONAL (if you can) ...... Interactive notifications :D
5. SPEEEEEEEEDDDD
I know they are making notification center, and as stated multiple times by bruan, they are simply deciding how to implement it into whited00r.

Springboard crashes will happn, regardless. at least one tweak on cydia will have it's issues.  :( as for a fresh whited00r, i know they are slowly yet surely trying to iron out bugs in it.

Whited00r is already speed optomised, they made it with as little tweaks as possible and on ios 3 to give you all the speed you can get. cheers.  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: NaTech27 on January 15, 2015, 09:18:13 AM
Another suggestion here...
Built-in Instagram app - just like "instagallery" that lets you view and heart pictures ... Thanks
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 15, 2015, 09:22:19 AM

Another suggestion here...
Built-in Instagram app - just like "instagallery" that lets you view and heart pictures ... Thanks
There's one issue there which is that which is that preloading apps can lead to copyright issues. And also some users might not want that feature as well as instagram Support for iOS 3 is going to be limited anyway...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on January 15, 2015, 10:16:52 AM
I have a suggestion!! its whited00r 8 boot logo like whited00r's name on a white or black background :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 15, 2015, 02:28:33 PM
I have a suggestion!! its whited00r 8 boot logo like whited00r's name on a white or black background :D
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
But we would have to find a way to change the bootlogo without a restore using redsn0w... of which is bootrom hacking stuff...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: isfiisfar on January 15, 2015, 02:39:32 PM
There's one issue there which is that which is that preloading apps can lead to copyright issues. And also some users might not want that feature as well as instagram Support for iOS 3 is going to be limited anyway...
in case of peoples liking u can make a toggle for it in the whited00r settings :P
as for copyright stuff may be they dont mind at all :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on January 16, 2015, 05:46:52 AM
in case of peoples liking u can make a toggle for it in the whited00r settings :P
as for copyright stuff may be they dont mind at all :P


We try not to go beyond what stock iOS 8 would provide in terms of features. We may expand on those features if it makes sense time and effort wise. We also may add extra features for speeding up the device (Whited00r Settings), but that is about it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on January 16, 2015, 11:45:33 AM
I have an idea for ATM, for ios 3 apps if they are still in the AppStore there you should provide a link to the app instead or adding it in to the ATM server. It will save alot of space in the server allowing you to put more apps that have been discounted. Also by having it in the AppStore it supports the developers! Win win, what do you think ? 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on January 16, 2015, 01:41:16 PM
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
But we would have to find a way to change the bootlogo without a restore using redsn0w... of which is bootrom hacking stuff...
you guys have already done that! When a wd 7.1 boots it has a ios7/8 kind of look which dosent come on ios3 (ios3 has a chrome apple)...
I have an idea for ATM, for ios 3 apps if they are still in the AppStore there you should provide a link to the app instead or adding it in to the ATM server. It will save alot of space in the server allowing you to put more apps that have been discounted. Also by having it in the AppStore it supports the developers! Win win, what do you think ? 
that is a good idea :D but there are thousands of apps maybe it takes to impliment it....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on January 20, 2015, 06:56:18 AM
I have an idea for ATM, for ios 3 apps if they are still in the AppStore there you should provide a link to the app instead or adding it in to the ATM server. It will save alot of space in the server allowing you to put more apps that have been discounted. Also by having it in the AppStore it supports the developers! Win win, what do you think ?

I don't think they accept apps if they are still on the App Store supporting 3.1.3?  Only ones that have dropped 3.1.3 support.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 20, 2015, 09:39:39 AM

you guys have already done that! When a wd 7.1 boots it has a ios7/8 kind of look which dosent come on ios3 (ios3 has a chrome apple)...that is a good idea :D but there are thousands of apps maybe it takes to impliment it....
I meant by giving the user the choice of bootlogos
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on January 20, 2015, 10:58:59 AM

I meant by giving the user the choice of bootlogos
When my iPod boots up the apple logo is chrome  it always was I have installed different versions of WD 3 or 4 times all ready
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 20, 2015, 11:09:16 AM

When my iPod boots up the apple logo is chrome  it always was I have installed different versions of WD 3 or 4 times all ready
I have the flat white style on my 1G. I think we had issues with setting the boot logo on other devices...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on January 20, 2015, 11:10:45 AM

I have the flat white style on my 1G. I think we had issues with setting the boot logo on other devices...
Oh, I'm on the iPod touch 2G MC  the one thats hard to jailbreak, that's probably why
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 20, 2015, 11:12:05 AM

Oh, I'm on the iPod touch 2G MC  the one thats hard to jailbreak, that's probably why
That would be the reason. As the MC doesn't have a major bootrom exploit we can't change the boot logo as its within the boot loader :/
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iPH0NE_3GS on January 20, 2015, 11:14:02 AM

That would be the reason. As the MC doesn't have a major bootrom exploit we can't change the boot logo as its within the boot loader :/
:( is the low battery icon themed too on the other devices ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: [email protected] on January 21, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
I meant by giving the user the choice of bootlogos
oh ! I think that would be a little hard on you guys? ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on January 21, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
:( is the low battery icon themed too on the other devices ?
I cant remember. I'll check for you in the next day or two ;)
But I don't think that that's possible on a device with no hardware ( bootrom) jailbreak exploits...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on January 24, 2015, 07:53:42 AM
oh ! I think that would be a little hard on you guys? ???

yeah, that would be difficult. Unless we manage to switch out how whited00r is distributed anyway.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: jdosan3645 on February 12, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
Here's my suggestions:
- Interactive Notification ( of course )
- Notification center ( If you can)
- Mail app with Gestures
- iOS 8 Photo Editor
- New Weather app
- Combine Cycroder+Camera into ONE app
- Better Music UI ( Music Player, Video Player,..)
- Better Control Center ( Tap Play icon to Play Music; AirDrop (Bluetooth file sharing) )
- iOS 7.1/8 UI
- Optimize Safari to make it browse the web faster
- Optimize whited00r to use less RAM -> Fasterrrr
more...let me think about it...
I like where your going with this, but i feel the cyctoder and camera would be bloatware type, and the weather app to me feels great, i don't know about anyone else, but it is fine. Control Center should be kept the way it is, and maybe is like in iOS 8 has the recent contacts in app switcher, we add the control center to the app switcher. Make the wd app switcher more like the auto tweak, so it is more usable. The Mail app in wd is actually really well built, and has the smooth feel to it, I personally would not add gestures to it, as it would hinder with the speediness. What i would recommend would is the iOS 8 notification center, and the iOS 8 smoothness. Also, I would get rid of spotlight as it slows the device down as a whole. Something I also recommend is to keep the iOS 7.1 ui, since it the same as the iOS 8 ui, just iOS 8 ui has more bulk to it, which makes things slower. And optimize whited00r to use less ram. which would help out significantly
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: georgethecat on September 15, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
Hi guys, I have installed WD 7.1 both on my iPhone 3G and my iPod Touch 2G. It's great! Congratulations to all the team who made this wonderful project!

I'm a graphic designer and if I can help you in any way will be a pleasure for me.

I have two suggestions.

1) The control center toggles in iOS 8/9 style.
    I found a tweak named "Centrex" that apply this graphical changes on iOS 7. I think could be useful.

2) In the control center a fake AIRDROP label. Only for our eyes, no function, no hope of interaction. But I think could be cool.

And I found this article, I think can be useful to suggest some ideas to us.

http://au.pcmag.com/apps/24382/gallery/before-and-after-ios-8-whats-different

Bye, peace! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: iTechy21 on September 15, 2015, 03:38:31 PM
Hi guys, I have installed WD 7.1 both on my iPhone 3G and my iPod Touch 2G. It's great! Congratulations to all the team who made this wonderful project!

I'm a graphic designer and if I can help you in any way will be a pleasure for me.

I have two suggestions.

1) The control center toggles in iOS 8/9 style.
    I found a tweak named "Centrex" that apply this graphical changes on iOS 7. I think could be useful.

2) In the control center a fake AIRDROP label. Only for our eyes, no function, no hope of interaction. But I think could be cool.

And I found this article, I think can be useful to suggest some ideas to us.

http://au.pcmag.com/apps/24382/gallery/before-and-after-ios-8-whats-different

Bye, peace! :)
Welcome to the forums! Nice to see new faces every so often :)
Anyway I think Whited00r 8 may be skipped like Windows 9 depending on how things work out :P and we tend to avoid visual features as stated in the OP as they waste space some devices really need.
Many of the developers and team members own newer iOS devices (I myself have an iPad 2) and we can explore the differences :P but we will take any useful information we can get! ;)
Title: Some Suggestions for future versions
Post by: FAMICOMASTER on February 21, 2016, 04:31:19 AM
Hello, I'm new here (but not to Whited00r) and I have a few suggestions here and there for you, and I have read the posting rules at the start of the thread and have tried my best to be as constructive and helpful as is humanly possible with my vocabulary, so here goes:

I'd like to request that folders be changed to look more like the quote-on-quote "Real" iOS 7/8/9 folders look like instead of the current iOS 4/5/6 look they have in Whited00r 7.1, the same goes for the Notes application. Maybe add some kind of Notifications center and / or a Spotlight search like in iOS 7 if possible, where you swipe down from the center of the screen to bring down the search bar?

The Siri clone (Sara) doesn't work at all on the iPhone 2G and wouldn't even launch on the iPhone 3G. Didn't try on the iPod Touch 1G/2G because neither have a microphone, so would you mind packaging something slightly better or somehow getting Voice Control from the iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4? The camera on the iPhone 2G is completely screwed up for both of my devices, the photos always turn out green and black (sometimes a bit of yellow but that's besides the point) and super grainy. Sometimes bookmarks won't go into folders, and sometimes all the icons won't fall all the way onto the home screen or leave a trail of sorts that goes between both pages of applications that I have.

There are a few debilitating and some just annoying graphical issues, such as how in the Contact application the borders for the photos don't work, as well as the fonts in some of the applications are just barely visible by their outline (such as song title in Music), making these apps difficult and in some cases impossible (or at least nearly so) to use properly or without too much trouble. The charging lock screen is also a bit screwed up, as well as the "slide to power off" slider when shutting the device down. The home screen photo doesn't show up in the App switcher for the home page, maybe you could add something that takes a temporary screenshot for this when you exit the application to enter the menu? Also could you disable round switches by default? It does seem to make devices quite slow, especially first generation devices (iPhone 2G and iPod Touch 1G).

If possible, since the YouTube app doesn't work anymore, could you either remove it or get it working again, even if you just hide the icon and add a Safari link instead, that would be perfect.

The control center is awesome, but it has in the past crashed some applications and even once sent an iPod Touch 2G into safe mode. Email me if you want more or full details, but I'll save that story for later.

Is it possible to let people choose what base apps they want to remove with some sort of menu or something? I'd like to know whether or not it's possible to change / hide the base iOS applications from view.

Finally, for my only (possibly difficult / impossible) true application request: Would it be possible to change the default Messages app to something else / get the old Skype versions working properly again? Maybe some sort of fix or replacement? I'd also like to see something like iFunBox incorporated be default if that's not too much to ask, and it seems pretty logical that you would add it at some point to me.

[qoute]
Whited00r Betas/Beta Testers?
Whited00r used to release betas to the public, but not anymore. Too many people skimmed over the very important word "beta" and just wanted the latest (and not always greatest) software from us. That lead to many forum posts and angry people when something didn't work, because they didn't realize or care it was beta and still a work in progress. None of them were helpful and constructive to towards debugging, and even when some users were, they were quickly buried by other people posting non-constructive things. This slowed down development quite a lot, and thus pushed back the official release, and ended up just angering the public and dropping down the reputation of whited00r's work by a lot.
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Even though I did thoroughly read above, I'm still here to help if needed, I've got every iPhone generation up the the 4S, and the 2G in duplicates, as well as the iPod Touch 1G and two iPod Touch 2Gs. contact me if you need any help with anything hardware-related, I've got time and devices to waste if needed.

Sorry for the clearly (as I realize now) long post, but I do hope it wasn't too terribly full of errors and will be of some help in the construction of the new version of the I must say excellent Whited00r.

If you decide to take any of my ideas or have anything to say about my post or it's contents, please do tell me so that next time I may be more helpful to others (possibly including anyone that ends up reading this post) in the future.

Regards, FAMICOMASTER of AiO Softworks.
Title: Re: Some Suggestions for future versions
Post by: Bruan on February 22, 2016, 05:42:55 AM
Hello, I'm new here (but not to Whited00r) and I have a few suggestions here and there for you, and I have read the posting rules at the start of the thread and have tried my best to be as constructive and helpful as is humanly possible with my vocabulary, so here goes:

Welcome to the forums then!

I'd like to request that folders be changed to look more like the quote-on-quote "Real" iOS 7/8/9 folders look like instead of the current iOS 4/5/6 look they have in Whited00r 7.1, the same goes for the Notes application. Maybe add some kind of Notifications center and / or a Spotlight search like in iOS 7 if possible, where you swipe down from the center of the screen to bring down the search bar?
That would require redoing the folders tweak, which while it is possible, probably won't happen for a while I'm afraid.
The notification center is quite easy to do for a basic one, and spotlight search is easy too. That's on the big to-do list we have :)


The Siri clone (Sara) doesn't work at all on the iPhone 2G and wouldn't even launch on the iPhone 3G. Didn't try on the iPod Touch 1G/2G because neither have a microphone, so would you mind packaging something slightly better or somehow getting Voice Control from the iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4?
Yeah, the server it used went down ages ago so it no longer works. Voice control can't be ported because it requires a higher firmware than 3.1.3. (unless the iPhone 3GS had it on 3.1.3)

The camera on the iPhone 2G is completely screwed up for both of my devices, the photos always turn out green and black (sometimes a bit of yellow but that's besides the point) and super grainy. Sometimes bookmarks won't go into folders, and sometimes all the icons won't fall all the way onto the home screen or leave a trail of sorts that goes between both pages of applications that I have.
I'm not sure about the camera, have you tried it in safe mode to see if it is a tweak causing the issue?
That's a known folders issue and won't be fixed until we remake the folders tweak. (we don't have the source to it because it was done ages ago and never given to us)


There are a few debilitating and some just annoying graphical issues, such as how in the Contact application the borders for the photos don't work, as well as the fonts in some of the applications are just barely visible by their outline (such as song title in Music), making these apps difficult and in some cases impossible (or at least nearly so) to use properly or without too much trouble.
Graphical issues will be addressed moreso after we port what we can from Grayd00r's UI tweak, because that handles things better :)

The charging lock screen is also a bit screwed up, as well as the "slide to power off" slider when shutting the device down.
This also will be fixed after we port Grayd00r's lock screen plugin system. (which also allows for even cooler stuff)

The home screen photo doesn't show up in the App switcher for the home page, maybe you could add something that takes a temporary screenshot for this when you exit the application to enter the menu?
Did you happen to disable the advanced options for "Homescreen snapshot" and "App snapshots"? (or something like that, it's been a while since I've used whited00r). Those are what make the snapshots, and it does include the homepage, or should when it works.


Also could you disable round switches by default? It does seem to make devices quite slow, especially first generation devices (iPhone 2G and iPod Touch 1G).
I think we should too, because while it makes a good first presentation visually, actually using it is not so nice. (some people like it though, which is why we have it)

If possible, since the YouTube app doesn't work anymore, could you either remove it or get it working again, even if you just hide the icon and add a Safari link instead, that would be perfect.
Perhaps just hide it is better, in case for some reason people want to use it.
As for fixing it, I don't know if we can (same with most closed API things)

The control center is awesome, but it has in the past crashed some applications and even once sent an iPod Touch 2G into safe mode. Email me if you want more or full details, but I'll save that story for later.

It depends on the usage of it, I'd need details on how to reproduce the bug.


Is it possible to let people choose what base apps they want to remove with some sort of menu or something? I'd like to know whether or not it's possible to change / hide the base iOS applications from view.

It is possible, but it's not implemented. It's easy enough to hide them via file system editing.

Finally, for my only (possibly difficult / impossible) true application request: Would it be possible to change the default Messages app to something else / get the old Skype versions working properly again? Maybe some sort of fix or replacement? I'd also like to see something like iFunBox incorporated be default if that's not too much to ask, and it seems pretty logical that you would add it at some point to me.
Sadly we can't fix old apps that no longer work due to API changes server side, as that is closed source and we also don't have the time or resources to create/maintain a patch that may work, if it's even possible.

Even though I did thoroughly read above, I'm still here to help if needed, I've got every iPhone generation up the the 4S, and the 2G in duplicates, as well as the iPod Touch 1G and two iPod Touch 2Gs. contact me if you need any help with anything hardware-related, I've got time and devices to waste if needed.

We don't have any betas at the moment, as we are working on Grayd00r (http://Grayd00r.com) for now :(

Sorry for the clearly (as I realize now) long post, but I do hope it wasn't too terribly full of errors and will be of some help in the construction of the new version of the I must say excellent Whited00r.

If you decide to take any of my ideas or have anything to say about my post or it's contents, please do tell me so that next time I may be more helpful to others (possibly including anyone that ends up reading this post) in the future.

Regards, FAMICOMASTER of AiO Softworks.

This was a very good post, thank you! :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FAMICOMASTER on March 02, 2016, 11:37:40 PM
Welcome to the forums then!
That would require redoing the folders tweak, which while it is possible, probably won't happen for a while I'm afraid.
The notification center is quite easy to do for a basic one, and spotlight search is easy too. That's on the big to-do list we have :)

Yeah, the server it used went down ages ago so it no longer works. Voice control can't be ported because it requires a higher firmware than 3.1.3. (unless the iPhone 3GS had it on 3.1.3)
I'm not sure about the camera, have you tried it in safe mode to see if it is a tweak causing the issue?
That's a known folders issue and won't be fixed until we remake the folders tweak. (we don't have the source to it because it was done ages ago and never given to us)

Graphical issues will be addressed moreso after we port what we can from Grayd00r's UI tweak, because that handles things better :)
This also will be fixed after we port Grayd00r's lock screen plugin system. (which also allows for even cooler stuff)
Did you happen to disable the advanced options for "Homescreen snapshot" and "App snapshots"? (or something like that, it's been a while since I've used whited00r). Those are what make the snapshots, and it does include the homepage, or should when it works.

I think we should too, because while it makes a good first presentation visually, actually using it is not so nice. (some people like it though, which is why we have it)
Perhaps just hide it is better, in case for some reason people want to use it.
As for fixing it, I don't know if we can (same with most closed API things)

It depends on the usage of it, I'd need details on how to reproduce the bug.


It is possible, but it's not implemented. It's easy enough to hide them via file system editing.
Sadly we can't fix old apps that no longer work due to API changes server side, as that is closed source and we also don't have the time or resources to create/maintain a patch that may work, if it's even possible.

We don't have any betas at the moment, as we are working on Grayd00r (http://Grayd00r.com) for now :(

This was a very good post, thank you! :)

Huh. This answers most of my questions, thanks!

Exact events:
Open Notes
Open control center
change brightness
close control center
type about 7 or 8 letters
Notes crashes
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Bruan on March 02, 2016, 11:42:40 PM
Huh. This answers most of my questions, thanks!

Exact events:
Open Notes
Open control center
change brightness
close control center
type about 7 or 8 letters
Notes crashes

Thanks for the bug report, I'll look into it when I have time/redo the control center to use the backend from Grayd00r. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 02, 2016, 08:26:49 PM
i suggest you to put in the next whited00r firmware a reset to default settings in configurator, cause i enabled some features and some times i forgot how the default settings look, but sometimes i want to bring them back cause with them disabled you have much more speed :) hope you understand what i mean
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 07, 2016, 04:04:51 PM
And a very cool new feature will be the Notification/Updates tab in the AppTimeMachine! Where you can see what apps where submited recently(for example which new games where submitted, so i don't need to view the full 500 games list to see what's new) and if there are some apps updates/newer versions(for example there are 3 versions of facebook on ATM, v.3.2 v.3.5 and v.4.0) so i don't need to open everytime ATM and search a newer app version available for me. And please fix the AppTimeMachine display list, for people to see all the apps, cause i need everytime to close and then open ATM for list to be updated and most of times there are displayed the same apps :( App Store has a solution for it, cause in their store are thousands of apps and it will take too much time to load that page for displaying all of those, so they are showing a list of 25 apps and on the bottom of the page is a option available: "Load 25 more apps...?" . It will be very nice to do this forAppTimeMachine. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: dellieuxr on July 08, 2016, 10:35:31 AM
I agree, because going into a category of apps only shows... 50 ? (I didn't count)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: dellieuxr on July 08, 2016, 10:36:35 AM
And the AppTimeMachine separated from the App Store so you don't have to do it manually (or a menu like Whited00r 6)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 08, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
yeah
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 13, 2016, 04:57:24 PM
Most of us (maybe all) know that whited00r has 2 types of App Switchers: 1. iOS 7 style and 2. Manual Multitasking. I want to say one thing about multitasking: for REAL multitasking we need to enable the backgrounder for apps to run in background, yes? backgrounder works in both app switchers but it has better options in  manual multitasking switcher. But since it niw it Whited00r 7 released and i'm commenting now on a Whited00r 8 suggestion post, i think it's time to update the "card" like switcher which is present in both iOS 7 and 8, to make it more useful when backgrounder is enabled. First, when i'm manual and i'm putting an app in background i can disable it easy and fast by double tapping the home and removing it from the bar, in card switcher this feature is not available, you can swith through the apps putted  in background fast but not closing them completely until you open the appband hold the homebto disable backgrounding. And when i'm switching from app to app the snapshot feature snapshots my multitasking (like in the image below)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 17, 2016, 02:09:45 PM
And it'll be good if you will change the yellow  magnifying glass to white in notes app and the vertical bar after the words to blue(sorry if it's badly explained but i think you understamd the idea :) )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Whited00r 8 - DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chris M. on July 29, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
I noticed something in iOS 7 Control Center when  enabling Wi-Fi or any option from it. In iOS 7 when enabling or disabling Wi-Fi it's showing in the top of the CC: "Wi-Fi: On" and "Wi-Fi: Off" but in Whited00r 7.1 it's "WiFi Enabled" and "WiFi Disabled".