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Title: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on October 03, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
WOW apple has made and relesed an exelent device (price is jaw droping  :P )
so what do you think about it ?
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on October 04, 2014, 07:34:49 AM
I like the look and size of the 6, but the 6+ has better battery and camera :(
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: iTechy21 on October 06, 2014, 07:02:37 PM
I like the look and size of the 6, but the 6+ has better battery and camera :(
and is about 80 more expensive ($130 using exchange rates so may variety)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: noob on November 08, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
apple is  not the big deal in software i prefer windowsphone or android  and it bends XD yes my friend has one
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 09, 2014, 03:19:06 AM
apple is  not the big deal in software i prefer windowsphone or android  and it bends XD yes my friend has one

I like windows phone, but the software is still years behind :(  Apps too.  Yes, there may be apps, even though some/most unofficial for now, but the actual functionality/quality level/support level is not there - coming from having owned 4 windows phone, and still owning 3.
Android phones bend too mate, and did before the iPhone did as well.

It is just that apple is the big deal in software and hardware. People complain about what is succeeding. The quality control and issues with various android phones/manufacturers is numerous.   Droid phones? Bad keyboards. Keys didn't always work. I had that issue with my droid 2 and one of the droid 3's I owned. Galaxy nexus? Image retention.  HTC M8/One?  Bends. Samsung devices, poor build as well as gaps in the build it seems.  (searching for any of these issues will bring results)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 10, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
I like windows phone, but the software is still years behind :(  Apps too.  Yes, there may be apps, even though some/most unofficial for now, but the actual functionality/quality level/support level is not there - coming from having owned 4 windows phone, and still owning 3.
Android phones bend too mate, and did before the iPhone did as well.

It is just that apple is the big deal in software and hardware. People complain about what is succeeding. The quality control and issues with various android phones/manufacturers is numerous.   Droid phones? Bad keyboards. Keys didn't always work. I had that issue with my droid 2 and one of the droid 3's I owned. Galaxy nexus? Image retention.  HTC M8/One?  Bends. Samsung devices, poor build as well as gaps in the build it seems.  (searching for any of these issues will bring results)
you are right all phones have their own drabacks in the case of iPhones its is that we must sync via iTunes
for me apple is the best and it will always be.... because appls apps are so smooth and consume less memory (or resources from what i have learnt)but android? apps are never smooth,always stops working (hang?) very laggy,cause the phone to heat up its like a car of the 70's
and apart form apple i like windows but like you said less apps :(
apple is  not the big deal in software i prefer windowsphone or android  and it bends XD yes my friend has one
Did your friend tried bending one ? trust me he cannot if he does his nervs woud pop out and pain a lot (i tried bending on with a normal force but it didnt i didnt apply more force because it would cost me a fortune if it bend ;) )
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 11, 2014, 06:08:07 AM
I can sync my iPhone on linux without iTunes :) 
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: iTechy21 on November 13, 2014, 12:50:58 PM
Personally my experience of android has been ok... Its just that there are so many phones out there its difficult to support them all without running into issues... And sometime you get better value for money (Google the One Plus One then you will see what I'm talking about :P )
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 14, 2014, 03:23:48 AM
Even I was an android user before whited00r (galaxy s2) it was only 2yrs old it's screen got became white on morning and the phone never booted up (wired eh?) from that my uncle finally upgraded to iPhone 4s hence he gave me his 3G I discovered that it was the best phone I have ever used in my life (wd6) and here I am :) ;)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: noob on November 15, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
yes you can synchronise and i prefer a xperia z3 also apple does not have any support !!!!!!! they dont do anithing also that its  faster some things and ios and macos its a ripoff of unix apple is not a big deal also that woz said that the bigger iphones are 3 years late and you can make more things with android and Ubuntu phone
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: noob on November 15, 2014, 06:12:54 PM
and yes i have bend an iPhone 6 and 6 plus
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 15, 2014, 09:36:14 PM
Personally my experience of android has been ok... Its just that there are so many phones out there its difficult to support them all without running into issues... And sometime you get better value for money (Google the One Plus One then you will see what I'm talking about :P )

yeah, the troubleshooting on android is a nightmare.  So much can screw with the system, let alone try supporting rooted devices/custom roms (yes, you can have a custom rom without it being rooted, although not common ).  Even the skins or different versions of the skins the manufacturers make can bug stuff out.

Oh I have had my eye on the One Plus One for a while :)  (and on android devices in general, I own quite a few actually - top of the line ones at that)

yes you can synchronise and i prefer a xperia z3 also apple does not have any support !!!!!!! they dont do anithing also that its  faster some things and ios and macos its a ripoff of unix apple is not a big deal also that woz said that the bigger iphones are 3 years late and you can make more things with android and Ubuntu phone

Apple has better support than android devices in general, far and wide.  You can take a second hand apple product into the apple store and get it replaced on warranty even if you didn't buy it from them (I have done that a couple times).  Free troubleshooting for the most part to tell what is wrong hardware wise as well. Their software solutions aren't always the best though because there is only so much you can do on a non-jailbroken device software wise, and often the bugs are just caused by OTA updates or restoring from a backup (android has this issue too).

Also, having done android development, I know that iOS is so much nicer and cleaner to develop for. (actual quality apps, with good design, interaction, animations and UX. Not just haphazardly thrown in from inexperienced developers/designers who are suddenly forced into trying to do that after years of not being used to caring about quality).

and yes i have bend an iPhone 6 and 6 plus

Did you know other phones have been bending for longer than the iPhone?  HTC devices bend, as well as other thin metal phones from android manufacturers. It just doesn't get talked about much because they aren't apple (because people want apple to fail, as they are a big deal). Android manufacturers have equal if not more manufacturing defects. No one cares though as it isn't apple.

Software as well, Android L(ollipop -_-), has tons more bugs on the OS than iOS 8 did, and more use-impeding bugs. Sensors broken, major wake lock issues due to cellular data staying on and being used even when connected to wifi (if it is quicker than the wifi connection. A nice "feature" by google to use up cellular data) (pretty sure about the reports on that), rebooting the device when unplugging from charging, etc. 
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 16, 2014, 06:45:51 AM
yes you can synchronise and i prefer a xperia z3 also apple does not have any support !!!!!!! they dont do anithing also that its  faster some things and ios and macos its a ripoff of unix apple is not a big deal also that woz said that the bigger iphones are 3 years late and you can make more things with android and Ubuntu phone
you are wrong there mate :) as bruan told apple has the best support ...
and yes i have bend an iPhone 6 and 6 plus
You bent both the iPhones? Really you must be rich ;) in fact all the flagship phones made up if alluminum body bend (galaxy S5 breaks :P ) htc one M8 in fact is weaker than the iPhone 6 plus
yeah, the troubleshooting on android is a nightmare.  So much can screw with the system, let alone try supporting rooted devices/custom roms (yes, you can have a custom rom without it being rooted, although not common ).  Even the skins or different versions of the skins the manufacturers make can bug stuff out.

Oh I have had my eye on the One Plus One for a while :)  (and on android devices in general, I own quite a few actually - top of the line ones at that)

Apple has better support than android devices in general, far and wide.  You can take a second hand apple product into the apple store and get it replaced on warranty even if you didn't buy it from them (I have done that a couple times).  Free troubleshooting for the most part to tell what is wrong hardware wise as well. Their software solutions aren't always the best though because there is only so much you can do on a non-jailbroken device software wise, and often the bugs are just caused by OTA updates or restoring from a backup (android has this issue too).

Also, having done android development, I know that iOS is so much nicer and cleaner to develop for. (actual quality apps, with good design, interaction, animations and UX. Not just haphazardly thrown in from inexperienced developers/designers who are suddenly forced into trying to do that after years of not being used to caring about quality).

Did you know other phones have been bending for longer than the iPhone?  HTC devices bend, as well as other thin metal phones from android manufacturers. It just doesn't get talked about much because they aren't apple (because people want apple to fail, as they are a big deal). Android manufacturers have equal if not more manufacturing defects. No one cares though as it isn't apple.

Software as well, Android L(ollipop -_-), has tons more bugs on the OS than iOS 8 did, and more use-impeding bugs. Sensors broken, major wake lock issues due to cellular data staying on and being used even when connected to wifi (if it is quicker than the wifi connection. A nice "feature" by google to use up cellular data) (pretty sure about the reports on that), rebooting the device when unplugging from charging, etc.
i do like the software also it's not so bad at all but have horrible security and a lot of malware (apple has two malware from what I know)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on November 16, 2014, 07:39:28 PM
well, here's my thoughts on the iphone 6:
(http://www.managemagicjack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Phone-research.jpg)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 16, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
well, here's my thoughts on the iphone 6:
(http://www.managemagicjack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Phone-research.jpg)

That's what I did years ago in HTML class kind of. Not allowed to take the phone out during class. I instead had veency on my iPhone, and used it via the computer. Technically couldn't get into trouble because I wasn't breaking any rules :3
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: noob on November 18, 2014, 06:13:14 AM
actually iphones are easier to bend than other and no atlaest they have a shitty support in mexico atleast and i hanve android lolipop and it faster than ios 8.1.1 and les buggy i havent found alot of bugs and i dont like the iphones because they are making them a little shittier (Steve jobs make the best iphones but since he died the new ceo make shittier iphones) and also apple have alot of rippofs
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: noob on November 18, 2014, 06:14:28 AM
a ios and macos are a ripoff of unix
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 18, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
actually iphones are easier to bend than other and no atlaest they have a shitty support in mexico atleast and i hanve android lolipop and it faster than ios 8.1.1 and les buggy i havent found alot of bugs and i dont like the iphones because they are making them a little shittier (Steve jobs make the best iphones but since he died the new ceo make shittier iphones) and also apple have alot of rippofs

Both me and [email protected] just told you other devices bend, some of them easier than the iPhone 6/+...  So that's not easier to bend on iPhones.
Mexico support may be worse if there are no Apple Stores there. At least in The U.S. and Europe I know they have good support with the Apple Stores (+ Asia some places + Australia).

Faster depends on what you are testing against. Some things are optimized much more for iOS as it is an optimized OS in general, and also what hardware you are comparing it against. If I compare my Nexus 7 2013 model against an iPhone 4S running iOS 8.1.1, it would be slower on the 4S. ;)
Less buggy, no. Android Lollipop has been a major disaster with the number of bugs on the release. Just because you haven't encountered them does not mean they don't exist, and aren't widely reported. You aren't the benchmark for if an OS is buggy or better or not, the general population is ;)
Apple has done fine with making iPhones, still good quality and good design. Just taking steps finding pace. When people refer to beauty in phones, they normally are referring to iPhones (because really, who likes the looks of a band-aid Galaxy S5).
Ripoffs are not the same as taking an idea and improving it and making it better.  (otherwise, hey, Android Lollipop - and android in general - has ripped off many things, although not saying they made it better :p - lock screen notifications, interactive notifications, coloured status bars for apps, etc).

a ios and macos are a ripoff of unix

So is linux then, but hey, no one seems to hate them.  They can base it on it as much as they want mate ;)  Android is a ripoff of linux/unix then as well, because it runs in a java VM on top of a linux/unix base.
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 19, 2014, 02:11:33 AM
In our city (Bengaluru,India) we have 6 iStores across the city ! I don't know Mexico but in our city they give the best phone support 
Bruan iPhone 4S running on iOS 7.1.2 can beat nexus 7 for sure (or atlest come close)
And speaking of android lollipop it is one of the worst os since 4.0 ice cream sandwich mate !
I say that apple is the worlds precious company and the king of smartphone's will always be iPhone's and the king of pc will always be windows!
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 19, 2014, 02:43:11 AM
In our city (Bengaluru,India) we have 6 iStores across the city ! I don't know Mexico but in our city they give the best phone support 
Bruan iPhone 4S running on iOS 7.1.2 can beat nexus 7 for sure (or atlest come close)
And speaking of android lollipop it is one of the worst os since 4.0 ice cream sandwich mate !
I say that apple is the worlds precious company and the king of smartphone's will always be iPhone's and the king of pc will always be windows!

I don't think a 4s can beat a 2013 nexus 7 at many things speed wise sadly. Perhaps some things it is optimized to do, like graphics and such.  It would come close though, I know that. On iOS 8.1 maybe even a little better with more optimizations.
I wouldn't call it the worst, Google certainly is trying to make things more unified and closer together in the feel of use, as well as design and animation thought out. They actually did a very good effort, but it requires a lot of refining. In a lot of places the interaction, design and colors are distracting rather than enhancing to the use of it. Lots of needless/over the top animations, like they just had a set number of animations they needed to fulfill and threw them in in odd places, and odd animations for those places. I'm saying in terms of bugs though as a whole OS, it has more, and more crippling bugs to actual use of the device, not just annoying and odd ones.

I actually use android daily though (my main phone is an android one), and develop for it as well ;)  I just think iOS is cleaner to work with and use :)  (and seems to be proven as well with the number of bugs, and my experience trying to make a nice design/animations)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 22, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
i am not saying that android is horrible ;) i do was an andriod user (Jellybean 4.2.2) my phone was a very good one but i felt iOS is best overall and hey dont underestimate iPhone 4S it is one of the best phone by apple (all iPhone are but this one won the hearts ) its such an old hardware it has no lag at all but nexus sometimes lags (i used my friends nexus 7 kitkat 4.4.1) and hey both the camera are awsome but the nexus camera was better than the 4S
i was wondering that this post has taken us someware unrelated :D
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 23, 2014, 05:46:14 AM
i am not saying that android is horrible ;) i do was an andriod user (Jellybean 4.2.2) my phone was a very good one but i felt iOS is best overall and hey dont underestimate iPhone 4S it is one of the best phone by apple (all iPhone are but this one won the hearts ) its such an old hardware it has no lag at all but nexus sometimes lags (i used my friends nexus 7 kitkat 4.4.1) and hey both the camera are awsome but the nexus camera was better than the 4S
i was wondering that this post has taken us someware unrelated :D

Oh I do like android devices, fun to play around with. When I want to get work done though, or need a reliable phone that I know won't bug out, I use my iPhone 5.   (or Lumia 1020)

Yes, this post has travelled quite far from the original, but hey, that's okay :)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 23, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Oh I do like android devices, fun to play around with. When I want to get work done though, or need a reliable phone that I know won't bug out, I use my iPhone 5.   (or Lumia 1020)

Yes, this post has travelled quite far from the original, but hey, that's okay :)
ya especially playing it in recovery mode ;) yep for navigation I use iPhone 5S or 4S (not my 3g you know gps problem) so android is not reliable phone for navigation and other important  stuff....
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on November 24, 2014, 04:07:49 AM
I feel like Android has more features from the box, and ios dose have good features but they require work to obtain. (like whited00r. ;) )
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on November 24, 2014, 07:03:57 AM
I feel like Android has more features from the box, and ios dose have good features but they require work to obtain. (like whited00r. ;) )

Modern iOS has many good features, but old iOS has similar to the old android, at least in terms of usefulness/looking good and actually wanting to show people you have ;)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: iTechy21 on November 24, 2014, 01:01:24 PM
I feel like Android has more features from the box, and ios dose have good features but they require work to obtain. (like whited00r. ;) )
There are even projects like whited00r for android phones. The most popular being Cyanogen Mod (there are others but I can't remember what they are :P ) which I have running on a Gingerbread phone with Jellybean from the Mod. And a Jellybean phone running an unofficial KitKat version as well :P but I voided my warranty :/ (dam flash counters :( )
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on November 24, 2014, 01:22:35 PM
There are even projects like whited00r for android phones. The most popular being Cyanogen Mod (there are others but I can't remember what they are :P ) which I have running on a Gingerbread phone with Jellybean from the Mod. And a Jellybean phone running an unofficial KitKat version as well :P but I voided my warranty :/ (dam flash counters :( )
I Installed CyanogenMod-11.1(KitKat 4.4.2) on my old samsung galaxy ace (cooper in england) it is only 3yrs old bit it was much slower than iOS4 on my iPhone 3G but now kitkat is pretty cool  8)  and fast than that gingerbread 2.3.6  >:(
Modern iOS has many good features, but old iOS has similar to the old android, at least in terms of usefulness/looking good and actually wanting to show people you have ;)
Yep but iOS is more optimised than android (rember iPhone 6+ has 1.3gb ram and scored highest in benchmark test)its not about the RAM but about the software ;)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: MarioKartEpicness on December 05, 2014, 03:40:57 AM
My goodness, it's almost like you can eat android softwear  ;D
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on December 06, 2014, 02:37:57 AM
softwear 
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: Bruan on December 07, 2014, 07:10:22 AM
No one should ever wear silk underpants, even though that is softwear.  (even I say that, being European)
Title: Re: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 plus
Post by: [email protected] on December 07, 2014, 11:29:44 AM
I quoted worng on that post  :( it was
you can eat android softwear  ;D