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Title: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Aaple on July 19, 2011, 06:53:22 PM
I don't understand why winterboard on whited00r is frowned down upon. It works for me lag free and Its much more convenient and much better than wintersled. Can we just use winterboard?
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: awesomeness on July 19, 2011, 06:56:55 PM
you can do it if you want but it will eventually cause lag and battery drainage
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 19, 2011, 07:04:07 PM
Yes, you can use it, but it will mess up folders slightly, and it will slow you down over time, and drain ram, as well as lag animations, and drain battery faster.   Aside from that, go right ahead :)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: blued00r on July 19, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
....Wintersled is slowly becoming more like Winterboard with out the slow down ;)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: snoozbuster on July 19, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
I don't really understand why Winterboard doesn't just replace the needed files and then stop running. Is it to support MobileSubstrate, so that if you install an erroneous theme it won't crash into Safe Mode and then continue displaying the theme in Safe Mode, thereby crashing Safe Mode?
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 19, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
It actually doesn't mess with the original images, it overrides the location when the OS asks for the image to display, thus theming it.
Wintersled works by replacing the images.  :)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: snoozbuster on July 19, 2011, 11:36:51 PM
Ahhh... Gotcha.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: MotionLess on July 20, 2011, 07:34:26 AM
When you don't use iOS3Wallpaper and that you use a background theme in winterboard, it will mess up your folders when you open them, the fading of the multitasking won't work in any cases.

I use winterboard though, as it supports non-"icons.png" themed icons, but I still use wintersled for theming my folders. Oh, and Brian, does wintersled theme the minimise.png from the AppSwitcher? I'm just asking :))
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 20, 2011, 07:41:32 AM
What do you mean non-icon.png ?  Like UIImages?
No, it doesn't :/  I shall add that in in the new stuff :)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: MotionLess on July 20, 2011, 07:44:41 AM
I still use the terminal version of WinterSled, that will be my next project for learning, adding that possibility to the terminal version :)) Its just for learning :))
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 20, 2011, 07:47:50 AM
What did you mean by non-icon.png though?

And do you mean minimize button themeing?
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: MotionLess on July 20, 2011, 07:58:13 AM
Yes, I did mean the minimize button :) And i think I was talking about UIImages, for example like AppStore.png or Preferences.png etc.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 20, 2011, 08:00:30 AM
Ah, cool :)

Oh, what part of them?   Like the loading screen, the actuall icon?  O.o (always looking for ways to improve ;) )
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: MotionLess on July 20, 2011, 08:05:46 AM
Ah, cool :)

Oh, what part of them?   Like the loading screen, the actuall icon?  O.o (always looking for ways to improve ;) )
Okay, I'm quiet confused now, I might've said something wrong O_O Well anyway, I was talking about the problem that almost no icons are getting themed when Im using a winterboard theme in wintersled. (let's take illumine for example)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 20, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Oh!   Yeah, I fixed that in the beta, but don't use that yet ;)  (also make sure the icon name matches the folder name, e.g Settings.png Preferences.app = Preferences.png)
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: MotionLess on July 20, 2011, 08:13:08 AM
Oh!   Yeah, I fixed that in the beta, but don't use that yet ;)  (also make sure the icon name matches the folder name, e.g Settings.png Preferences.app = Preferences.png)
Awesome, you're a pro Brian. :))
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: snoozbuster on July 21, 2011, 01:49:38 AM
I dunno if the original poster got a good answer to his question, but I just installed Winterboard (it was my 18th MobileSubstrate), and my idling RAM dropped from about a consistant 54-56MB to 50-51MB. With no themes. So, it eats a good chunk for a single substrate.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 21, 2011, 02:01:30 AM
Yeah, it takes a toll.  My 4g struggles :/
Title: Why not winterboard?
Post by: blued00r on July 21, 2011, 02:54:19 AM
Mine too, let alone dreamboard...
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 21, 2011, 03:05:31 AM
I had both installed :3
Title: Why not winterboard?
Post by: blued00r on July 21, 2011, 03:16:20 AM
That's choking the iPod!!! Lol
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 21, 2011, 03:48:01 AM
I had 103 mb free ram, and 60 when using safari O.o
Title: Why not winterboard?
Post by: blued00r on July 21, 2011, 06:55:40 AM
Like I said but now killing!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: snoozbuster on July 21, 2011, 11:57:17 PM
I was idling at 63MB earlier. It was crazy. I took a screenie.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 22, 2011, 12:05:10 AM
I have a screenshot of my 2g at 78mb free.
Title: Why not winterboard?
Post by: xViisionZ on July 22, 2011, 11:47:33 AM
the biggest reason that i dont use wintersled is cause i dont wnna waste an hour of installing it LOL
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Tx3 on July 22, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
the biggest reason that i dont use wintersled is cause i dont wnna waste an hour of installing it LOL

good point here :D
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: CHICK3N on July 22, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
Winterboard causes slowdown (MobileSubstrate) and battery drain. WinterSled is awesome! You should install it.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on July 22, 2011, 03:00:16 PM
the biggest reason that i dont use wintersled is cause i dont wnna waste an hour of installing it LOL
Om
the biggest reason that i dont use wintersled is cause i dont wnna waste an hour of installing it LOL
I'm going to set up the dependencies right at some point, so it will install everything automatically from the repo :P
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: xViisionZ on July 22, 2011, 04:05:29 PM
okay , when that works correctly i'll use it.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Tx3 on August 03, 2011, 12:08:23 AM
Can i use every theme that winterboard uses with winterseld??
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: CoolBreeze on August 03, 2011, 03:09:26 AM
Can i use every theme that winterboard uses with winterseld??
no
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Bruan on August 03, 2011, 03:15:05 AM
As wintersled cannot handle some things, such as html, or plist editing.   The icons/other things will work with every theme though.
Title: Re: Why not winterboard?
Post by: Tx3 on August 03, 2011, 09:18:40 AM
As wintersled cannot handle some things, such as html, or plist editing. The icons/other things will work with every theme though.
ah okay ...thx!