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Title: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Gorkij on February 21, 2013, 12:29:33 PM
2013-05-26 PierreP Moderator edit: We may have found the solution but for the real GPS receiver only. Try this fix FIX - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg78845.html#msg78845) and after that this GPS test method: App to Test GPS - MotionX-GPS Better than Google Maps (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg79114.html#msg79114)

Native Maps app returning a "Your location could not determined" error in Whited00r 6:

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Maps_Error_Your_location_could_not_be_determined_Whited00r_6_iPhone_3g_PierreP.png)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_test_iPhone_3G_MotionX-GPS_GPS_Kit_GPS_Info_PierreP.png)

And thank you in advance for reporting back in this thread about if it worked for you or not.  8)

Note that the iPhone 2G & iPod Touch 1 & 2G do not have a GPS receiver. They use a-GPS (or AGPS - Assisted GPS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS) to approximate your location by triangulation. The exact technical term is Trilateration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateration).

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Trilateration_3_satelites.png)

It may take up to 12 minutes outdoor with a clear sky view using the iPhone 3G to get a lock on 4 satellites minimum which is necessary to be able to get the Altitude data & Accuracy under 47 meters as illustrated above.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_Lock_4_Satellites_PierreP.jpg)

Sadly, the a-GPS function permitting a fast approximate location in the native iOS Maps application & faster GPS chipset satellites lock was broken by Apple on iOS 3.1.3 (on which Whited00r is based for max speed & fluidity) because they changed the a-GPS servers' URL's starting on iOS 4+ and disabled access to the previous ones. Just like they are doing in iTunes with apps updates not supporting our older devices anymore.  :-\

The Whited00r team is working on finding a workaround and we will update this post as soon as we find a fix.

Quick approximate location in Maps & Location Services (Core location framework) does not work in Whited00r 6.  :-\

If your iPhone 3G has the > Settings > General > About > Modem Firmware (a.k.a. baseband) > 06.15.00 then the GPS receiver will never work because it is an iPad baseband & that iPad did not have a GPS receiver chip so it is not enabled. See step 3 here if you would like to downgrade to a real iPhone 3G modem firmware: [Solved] iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1 Stuck in Baseband 05.15.04 - No Service (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7134.0.html)

Do not waste your time changing basebands if your modem firmware is not the iPad 06.15.00 as it will not fix the a-GPS problem nor affect the GPS Receiver as proven by multiple tests I ran on 2 different iPhone 3G's.

The native Maps app will work on Whited00r 6 but only after you got a GPS satellite fix using one of the apps illustrated above which may take up to 12 minutes the first time you get a fix:

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Maps_GPS_Test_iPhone_3G_iOS_3.1.3_bb_5.12.01_PierreP.png)

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Original post:

Location services does not function at all on my iPhone 3G after i installed whited00r, but i can send and receive calls.

Originally running 4.2.1 baseband 05.15.04. Locked to carrier of the shipped SIM.
Jailbreaked and updated baseband to 06.15 with redsn0w 0.9.6b6
Downgraded baseband to 05.13.04 with redsn0w 0.9.14b1
Downgraded firmware to 3.1.2 stock, baseband was preserved.
Jailbreaked with blackra1n (without jailbreaking i wasn't able to install the whited00r-ipsw via iTunes).
Installed whited00r wd6 - unlocked.
Updated all the cydia files and ultrasn0w. Rebooted.

The phone is working perfectly, sending and receiving calls with non-shipped SIM-card.
But location services won't work at all, not even with external bluetooth GPS-dongle.
The phone will connect to the dongle but no functioning homing in the maps app.
I never see the little blue arrow, in fact no arrow at all, in the upper right corner.
Could this be a problem with some daemon not running properly, since I cant get a fix even with external GPS device?

Interestingly when i open the maps app and press the arrow, it first locates the approximate location of my wifi (probably sniffed by google i assume) and then shifts to the approximate location of where i used to live 1,5 years ago - the last time i used the iPhone 3G with the original shipped SIM!

Any ideas guys?
Title: Re: GPS problem on iPhone 3G running baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on February 21, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
Try running this in terminal, it supposedly fixes location based bugs (if it does work I will send more instructions to keep it working). so, as root run this line by line:
launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist
launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist
Title: Re: GPS problem on iPhone 3G running baseband 05.13.04
Post by: momircar11 on February 21, 2013, 02:56:41 PM
I have bb 05.13.04 and my GPS is not working  :( Just shows a big white circle, not exact location..
Title: Re: GPS problem on iPhone 3G running baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on February 22, 2013, 03:38:36 AM
@ Gorkij - Welcome to the Whited00r forum!  (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/Smileys/default/cool.gif)

f0recast is a simple free standalone tool to instantly find essential iPhone info including Bootloader version and baseband. Works on Mac & Windows. Download the free f0recast & iREB tools here: http://ih8sn0w.com/ (http://ih8sn0w.com/)

I just connected my iPhone 3G to my computer with iTunes closed, started the small standalone (means no install required) f0recast and it gave me all the essential info about the iPhone:

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/f0rcast_My_iPhone_3G_Info_PierreP.jpg)

Could you make a similar screen capture and post it here?

My iPhone 3G running Whited00r 6 on Baseband 05.13.04 works absolutely fine, including the GPS which is really accurate. It was on bad iPad Baseband 06.15 before I downgraded it to a proper iPhone baseband.

Have you tried this: Hard Reset often solve many problems: hold both Home & Power buttons until the Apple logo appears and let go of the buttons & smell the roses while it is doing it's thing.  (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)

No worries, hard reset will not change any of your info, tweaks & apps on the device.

(http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7353.0;attach=1041;image)

*****

I have bb 05.13.04 and my GPS is not working  :( Just shows a big white circle, not exact location..

You already posted the same thing here and got a reply.  (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) whited00r 6 iPhone 3g Baseband 05.13.04 GPS Not Working? (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7479.msg71387.html#msg71387)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Gorkij on February 22, 2013, 08:10:27 AM
Hi and thanx for the replies.
I ran the terminal commands in terminal as root but no GPS-fix afterwards. It only gets an approximate fix based on WiFi-location; if I turn WiFi off - not even approximate fix. No difference if I use internal or external GPS source. Weird isn't it?

I have done a hard reboot and no difference. I'll attach my f0recast result.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on February 22, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
How about a fresh clean install again of WD 6?

After you backed up your device properly do a fresh clean Whited00r 6 install because as you can read in the whited00r Tutorial - Installation (http://www.whited00r.com/installation.php):

Quote
After installation (could take up to 15 minutes, reboot the device twice) iTunes will ask you if you want to restore from a backup. Please choose “Set up a new iPhone/iPod” to

improve speed and avoid strange problems. Clean installation is better and the the only way to get our support!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Gorkij on February 22, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
I tried to resolve whether this was due to whited00r or redsn0w. I use my external gps since my shipped SIM is no longer active but i need it to activate the phone in iTunes.
So I first restored to 4.2.1 stock via iTunes. Location service works with external GPS.
Jailbreaked and updated baseband to 06.15 with redsn0w 0.9.6.
Downgraded baseband to 05.13.04 with redsn0w 0.9.14b2 - location service works with external gps.
So far so good.

Install WD6 unlocked version. It connects nicely to the bluetooth gps-dongle. Location service no longer works in maps.
Hard reboot. Still no location service.
Updating cydia packages and ultrasnow, hard reboot. Still no location service.
I run the com.apple.locationd.plist-scripts that was posted above. Still no location service.
I clean up the daemons via Terminal->setup. Still no location service.

Doesn't seem like this problem is attached to either redsn0w or the baseband since location service was functioning before I installed whited00r.
Could the push function anything to do with this?

Update: I tried switching to the SIM card that I normally use with my 4S. Works perfectly, sending and reciving calls. Data over 3G also without problem. Still no location with external GPS. If I turn both external GPS and WiFi off and go into the maps app I get a huge approximate location but no fix.
BUT the phone gets quite hot, just like it would if using the gps chip. This has got to be some software problem in whited00r.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: momircar11 on February 22, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
F0recast says that I have bootloader 6.4  :o And running terminal script didn't help :( Here's the screenshot:
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on February 22, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
try removing /etc/hosts, just as an idea (rename it to something else, dont delete it)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: momircar11 on February 22, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
Nope. Still the same :( Maybe I need to reboot my phone? I just resprung it..
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on February 22, 2013, 03:55:11 PM
Nope. Still the same :( Maybe I need to reboot my phone? I just resprung it..
try a hard reboot (holding home/power buttons until the device shuts down   )
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: JustinCase on February 22, 2013, 10:06:18 PM
I feel so lost reading this
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on February 22, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
I feel so lost reading this
Oh, very pun-ny.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on February 22, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
I tried to resolve whether this was due to whited00r or redsn0w. I use my external gps since my shipped SIM is no longer active but i need it to activate the phone in iTunes....

Install WD6 unlocked version. It connects nicely to the bluetooth gps-dongle. Location service no longer works in maps.
Hard reboot. Still no location service.

...Updating cydia packages and ultrasnow, hard reboot. Still no location service.
I run the com.apple.locationd.plist-scripts that was posted above. Still no location service.
I clean up the daemons via Terminal->setup. Still no location service.

Doesn't seem like this problem is attached to either redsn0w or the baseband since location service was functioning before I installed whited00r.
Could the push function anything to do with this?

Update: I tried switching to the SIM card that I normally use with my 4S. Works perfectly, sending and reciving calls. Data over 3G also without problem. Still no location with external GPS. ..

This has got to be some software problem in whited00r.

Maybe momicar11 & you missed my post Reply #5 above but I am re-posting it for your benefit: After you backed up your device properly do a fresh clean Whited00r 6 install because as you can read in the whited00r Tutorial - Installation (http://www.whited00r.com/installation.php):

Quote
After installation (could take up to 15 minutes, reboot the device twice) iTunes will ask you if you want to restore from a backup. Please choose “Set up a new iPhone/iPod” to

improve speed and avoid strange problems. Clean installation is better and the the only way to get our support!

So how can you say "This has got to be some software problem in whited00r" when you mess up with an external Bluetooth GPS, update & run scripts before using a valid working SIM?

1- Whited00r does not change anything to your baseband so it cannot mess with it.

2- Install Whited00r Unlocked version so I can you say: "i need it to activate the phone in iTunes...." ??? :o   Why? If it is Carrier unlocked, it does not need any iTunes activation.

3- Use a valid working SIM ONLY AFTER REBOOTING TWICE (turn iPhone off, wait 15 second, turn on and do it again) THE DEVICE. Do NOT connect to iTunes before doing this, test GPS & other stuff before doing it.

4- Use the built in WD 6 Google Maps & the iPhone 3G built in GPS and test before making ANY modifications, before doing ANYTHING to the iPhone including Cydia update & whatnot.

You want to test WD 6 itself, not any crap or messing around you did to the original stock WD 6 installation.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Google_Maps_GPS_Not-Working_A-GPS_PierreP.PNG)

5- This morning, I had the dreaded big blue circle showing that the GPS was not working in Google Maps on my iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 WD 6. What I did to fix it is:

 5 a- Turn off Google Maps, WIFI, Bluetooth, Notifications & Location Services.

 5 b- On my StatusBar I could see my carrier's custom name (WD6  ;) ) & the 3G logo. I chose to reset anyway the iPhone's radios by going to > Settings > Carrier > and let it do it's > Network Selection > Carriers Searching... while it was doing this search, the 3G disappeared from the StatusBar as illustrated in the screen capture below.

After it successfully found my carrier, it showed Automatic and the 3G reappeared on the StatusBar.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Cellular_Carrier_Reset_Network_Selection_PierreP.png)

 5 c- You could try instead: > Settings > turning on Airplane Mode, wait 15 seconds and turn off again to reset the radios & activate the cellular Network Search & initialization.

6- I turned back on > Settings > General > Location Services, went outside my house to have a clear unobstructed view of the sky and the CIA's GPS satellites  :o and started the Google Maps app. After a few minutes for the initialization of the GPS and Google downloading it's maps: Bingo! Works perfectly with a pinpoint blue dot showing my exact location which I will not post here.  ;)

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@ bcooperizcool - Don't waste your time with momicar11, I asked him in an other GPS thread to do a clean WD 6 install because look at his posting history, he made so many tweaks and installed so much [email protected] that it is impossible to troubleshoot his tweaked unrecognizable WD install: http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=18776 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=18776)

Only if he confirms a clean fresh un-tweaked Whited00r 6 install following exactly the instructions above will I ever answer any of his questions about GPS again.  ::)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Gorkij on February 23, 2013, 03:13:36 PM
I've always done clean installs of whited00r, which I think is a wonderful project. I haven't even backed up before since I'm doing this on my old iPhone. I always set up as a new phone in iTunes. Always used the unlocked version of whited00r.

I have now done a new clean install of whited00r after restoring to 4.2.1->upgraded baseband 06.15->downgraded to 05.13.04. After the install was complete I didn't let it sync with iTunes but instead shifted to my working SIM. No updating cydia, scripts or whatnot as your wrote ;)
Rebooted 3 times including one hard reboot. It connected to the carrier. I went into maps and only get an approximate fix. I then made sure bluetooth, wifi and location services was switched off (I dont have any settings for push, haven't done the fix and not interested in push, and no email accounts installed).
I then went into the carrier settings and let the iphone find the carrier again as you told me. Got the 3G mark after the carrier name but in maps - no change. Still just approximate fix which I assume are based on cell tower locations. Strange. Btw thanks for your time and patience.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on February 23, 2013, 04:25:13 PM
Try turning location services on ;)
Title: Whited00r 6 - GPS Working Fine on iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on February 23, 2013, 04:48:47 PM
...I went into maps and only get an approximate fix. I then made sure bluetooth, wifi and location services was switched off...

So you did not read the final important step #6 with some important words in Bold type above that I took my free unpaid time to explain at length just for you.  :-\

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.  :'(

(http://www.vaiofseries.com/Smiley/Horse_to_Water_Cowboy_Gun_Cartoon.png) (http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/the-horse-that-wouldnt-drink/)

I have the proof in my hand that GPS and Google Maps are working absolutely fine my iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 running Whited00r 6. My iPhone 3G was on the bad iPad Baseband 06.15 running a dog-slow iOS 4.2.1 stock but jailbroken & carrier unlocked before and the GPS was not working with that one until I downgraded it to the proper iPhone Baseband 05.13.04 and upgraded to the speedy custom firmware Whited00r 6 based on iOS 3.1.3 + a ton of features, speed up tweaks & better looks.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/iPhone_Simpsons_haha.jpg)

The only possible explanations if your GPS/Google Maps on iPhone 3G is not working are:

1- You do not follow the how-to exactly.

2- Your iPhone 3G is broken, the GPS chip is dead. No way to fix it unless changing the expensive motherboard.

3- You are too close to the magnetic North Pole being in Sweden (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/Themes/WDVertex/images/flags/se.png) and it is messed up your GPS.  ;)

4- GPS is working fine but you do not have a data connection, either from the cellular provider or via WiFi.

5- You are in a cavern with no clear unobstructed view of the GPS satellites in the sky so the CIA cannot kill you with their drones.  :o

6- You need to buy a pair of those:

(http://www.vaiofseries.com/Smiley/Glasses_Groucho.png)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: momircar11 on February 23, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
@PierreP
I did a clean installation, and do not have so much tweaks installed, so........... ::)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: rafa_beloh on March 13, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
Hey dude, I read one of your posts about the whited00r and I'm having  the exact same problem as momircar11.  I was wondering if you got to solve it. The problem isI have an iPhone 3G 4.2.1 BB 05.15.04 -> Upgraded it to BB 06.15.00 -> downgraded it to BB 05.13.04 and in all of them my GPS was working perfectly fine.Then I installed Whited00r unlocked did evertyhing correctly (booted a couple of times after installation) then I updated Cydia perfectly fine, but when I went to verify my GPS on the google maps factory maps it didn't show my position correctly and the bigger problemwhen I'm on 3G (no wifi connection) the GPS doesn't find me AT ALL!!!I read a post about this here, tried everything you proposed and nothing worked, so if you could help me I'd appreciate a lot!!!I'm from Brazil, so I don't know if that's the problem...Thx
Title: Reload location daemon
Post by: Bruan on March 13, 2013, 05:40:00 PM
have you tried the unloading/reloading of the daemon?

Try running this in terminal line by line:
su
alpine (password, you won't see this being typed)
launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist
launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist

then see if it works :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: rafa_beloh on March 13, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
Tried every code you guys said on terminal, even left the house to reload it afterwards and nothing!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on March 13, 2013, 05:55:48 PM
Tried every code you guys said on terminal, even left the house to reload it afterwards and nothing!


From an article I found by using google:

Quote
So, for those of you with wonky GPS positioning on the iPhone 3G, try this fix:
Navigate to Settings>General>Network>Enable 3G and toggle to “OFF”
Locate yourself using the iPhone 3G’s GPS receiver
Navigate to Settings>General>Network>Enable 3G and toggle to “ON”
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: momircar11 on March 13, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Some news: GPS on my 3G is totally dead.  :(  At first, it was showing a big blue circle (at least that), but now it only shows a message 'Your location could not be determined'  :o  What's that now..  ???
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on March 13, 2013, 08:01:53 PM
@ rafa_beloh: the GPS works fine on my iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 running Whited00r 6.

Whited00r never changes the baseband nor the GPS settings.

1- Turn off the iPhone & remove the SIM. Start from a fresh clean install of Apple's stock iOS 4.2.1 using iTunes (DO NOT Restore from an old backup), reboot the iPhone twice (turn off, wait 15 seconds and turn back on), check > Settings > General > About > Modem Firmware (a.k.a. Baseband) to make sure it is Baseband 05.13.04.

1a- Turn off the iPhone & insert the SIM if you have one but it is not necessary to test the GPS.

2- Settings > General > turn on Location Services.

3- Connect to 3G Data or WiFi, test if you can surf the web with Safari and if it works then Google Maps can download the maps or Satellite images.

4- Go outside to have a clear unobstructed view of the sky & the CIA's satellites except if you are on the Drone kill list.  ;) Start Google Maps test your GPS and remember that it can take several minutes to get a position fix when using the GPS for the first time after flashing the iOS Firmware and report back here so to help other users with a similar problem.  8)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Google_Maps_GPS_Not-Working_A-GPS_PierreP.PNG)


5- After you are sure that your GPS is working,  install Whited00r 6 Unlocked Version directly on top of stock iOS 4.2.1. Just follow the instructions here: Whited00r Installation Tutorial (http://www.whited00r.com/installation)

Or install Whited00r 6 Normal Version only if your iPhone is Factory Unlocked or you if are using the original SIM you got with the iPhone contract but then you will not be able to use SIM's from other cellular providers.  :-\

Personally, I always use successfully iReb (http://ih8sn0w.com/) on my Windows 7 laptop to put the iPhone in DFU Mode with iTunes turned off before installing Whited00r using iTunes:


(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/iReb_Recovery_Mode_Error_16XX_PierreP.jpg)


*****

Some news: GPS on my 3G is totally dead.   At first, it was showing a big blue circle (at least that), but now it only shows a message 'Your location could not be determined'   What's that now..

Do the steps above, if it still does not work, you have a hardware problem.  :o
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: rafa_beloh on March 13, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
Ok, so trying again exactly like you said... Clean restored it on itunes and the version installed was 4.2.1(8C148) and Firmware 05.15.04 (wich is not what I wanted)... Tried GPS like you said and it was pinpoint PERFECT (so I'm ruling out Hardware problem... It works perfectly)... So jailbroke it to Ipad badeband (06.15.00) with the RedSn0w 0.9.6b6...Selected Install Cydia, install ipad baseband and enable battery percentage... Result 4.2.1 (8C148) Firmware 06.15.00 and GPS working like a charm!!!! Downgraded from iPad baseband with Redsn0w 0.9.14b2... Result firmware 05.13.04 as wanted and GPS pointing to my head perfectly!!!

So starting your instructions (4.2.1 (8C148) and BB 05.13.04) took the SIM card off, turned the phone off and put it on DFU with iReb r7... and installed WD 6 UNLOCKED... Turned it off a couple of times, turned it off again, inserted SIM card and turned it on. Result Version 3.1.3 (7E18) and BB 05.13.04 with Whited00r installed. GPS test (Location ON and 3G ON) it works but gives Wrong location (2km far from where I am and I tried it outside with no roof above me)...

Tried the code in terminal line by line:
su
alpine (password, you won't see this being typed)
launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist
launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist

got a closer position, but still wrong, like 200m away... Turned 3G off, went outside again, got another position 200m away from where I am. Turned wifi on wrong position again. At least this time the GPS is working on 3G. last time it wasn't even tracking me, only on wifi. Upgraded Cydia and still no change on the GPS.

If you guys think of anything else I can do to solve this, please tell me. I use some apps that need the exact position of the GPS. If you have any thoughts I'm willing to listen.

Thanks anyway for your help.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on March 14, 2013, 12:07:45 AM
rafa, do a fresh clean install again of Whited00r 6, disconnect from the computer when it boots for the first time, reboot twice and do not do anything to it, do not install any apps and do not connect to iTunes so we can troubleshoot.


Make sure: 2- Settings > General > turn on Location Services.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: rafa_beloh on March 14, 2013, 12:17:03 AM
Ok I'll try and do it another day, cause today I won't have much time... Do you have suggestions already?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on March 14, 2013, 02:26:53 AM
... Do you have suggestions already?

Chamomile is relaxing.  ;)
Title: Maps Location Services problem Whited00r 6 - iPhone 3G Factory Unlocked
Post by: Facesnights on March 25, 2013, 04:30:50 PM
Hello i have a normal iPhone 3G 16 g with whited00r 6 baseband 5.15.04, my problem its google maps does not show my location, i probe to clean instalation and dont work too but when i install ios 4.2.1 working perfect (whatsapp not working for this problem i intall whited00r) so  i probe diferents basebands 6.15 , 5.13 but not working only on whited00r but on ios 4.2.1 working perfect(its problem of whited00r) .

Anyone know how to solve the problem of the location? my iPhone 3G is factory unlocked.




PierreP Moderator note: Edited thread title to add relevant keywords as described in Whited00r 6: Tips to Quickly Solve your Problems/Bugs & Get Answers FAST! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?topic=6934.0)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 25, 2013, 06:12:28 PM
That baseband is actually really bad on whited00r, and I would recommend following this tutorial to change it.

[Solved] whited00r 6 iPhone 3G NO SERVICE  (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7243.0.html)

Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 25, 2013, 06:20:26 PM
i probe this but not working too my friend i probe baseband 5.13 6.15 but on whited00r not working
in official ios 4.2.1 working perfect with baseband 5.13 5.15 and 6.15
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 25, 2013, 06:28:19 PM
You tried downgrading the baseband?  What version of whited00r did you install? (unlocked or normal)  You can check by looking at the file you downloaded, it will say either U or N at the end of it :)  (U for unlocked, N for normal).

When you restored to whited00r, did you do a clean install, or restore from a backup?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 25, 2013, 10:09:14 PM
my iphone its unlock of factory but i probe 2 versions normal and unlock and clear install , but only gps working with ios 4.2.1
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 26, 2013, 01:08:17 AM
Does it show your location with wifi only?  What sort of error is it?  does it just keep searching forever, or say your location could not be determined?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 26, 2013, 07:28:05 AM
say your location could not be determined
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 26, 2013, 01:23:28 PM
Can it find your location using only wifi (say put the phone in airplane mode and turn wifi on and try the location)?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 26, 2013, 02:05:39 PM
my wifi dont working i used 3g but on ios 4.2.1 working good i dont understand because dont working on whited00r....
i probe this but not working too

Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: alveola666 on March 26, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
Seems like this problem is wide-spread on hacktivated devices. I thought this problem caused by whited00r firmware but currently I'm on stock 3.1.3 hacktivated and I have same situation.
Anyway, there is the fix in cydia.pushfix.info repo, try it out (fix didn't helped me on iPhone 1st gen though)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 26, 2013, 07:48:34 PM
my iphone its Normal its unlock of factory my friend but i dont understand because in ios 4.2.1 working but on whited00r not
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 12:45:58 PM
Please need help i probe original ios 3.1.3 and not working too the problem its of ios 3.1.3 my operator its orange on spain please help me!!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 01:13:53 PM
i have the same problem in my iphone 3g i make same things restore, downgrade baseband but with ios 3.1.3 not working my gps dont find my localition my operator its orange on spain but with ios 4.2.1 working perfect my gps and location anyone can help me please?? sorry my bad english
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 01:48:46 PM
i have the same problem in my iphone 3g i make same things restore, downgrade baseband but with ios 3.1.3 not working my gps dont find my localition my operator its orange on spain but with ios 4.2.1 working perfect my gps and location anyone can help me please?? sorry my bad english
so you followed this thread and tried all the solutions?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
Please need help i probe original ios 3.1.3 and not working too the problem its of ios 3.1.3 my operator its orange on spain please help me!!
have you followed any of the tutorials that you posted on?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
yes
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 02:53:43 PM
yes
When you restored to whited00r, did you restore from  a backup after you installed it?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
i make new intallation
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
yes but not working my location  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
yes but not working my location  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Have you tried it without downgrading the baseband, to see if it works for Spain?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 03:25:20 PM
i make new intallation
Oh sorry I just read that above and you had already answered that ;)

Try restoring to 4.2.1, and then just restoring to whited00r without downgrading the baseband to see if that helps you.(I doubt it will, but it's worth a shot)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
not working too i probe this before ...


i probe to restoring to 4.2.1 and locationd working good i restore to whited00r 6 and not working location.
i probe to restoring to 4.2.1 and locationd working good i upgrade baseband to 6.15 and locationd working good i restoring to whited00r 6 and not working.
i probe to restoring to 4.2.1 and locationd working good i downgrade baseband  6.15 to 5.13 and working good i restoring to whited00r 6 and not working.


i probe to restoring to 4.2.1 and locationd working good i restore to whited00r 5.2  and not working location.


i probe to restoring to 3.1.3 official ios and locationd not working too


i dont know how fix my problem


my operator is orange (spain)

Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Facesnights on March 28, 2013, 05:25:31 PM
yes i probe every basebands 6.15 , 5.15 y 5.13 but on official  ios 3.1.3 and  whited00r 5.2 / 6 not working only working on ios 4.2.1
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 07:03:39 PM
I don't know :(  It could be simply that 3.1.3 doesn't fully support orange in Spain :(  I cant test it out on my device and troubleshoot because I'm not in Spain :/
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on March 28, 2013, 07:04:23 PM
I think you will have to see if anyone else in Spain on whited00r has had the issues and solved it :/
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on March 30, 2013, 10:11:17 AM
The situation is the same with me! ... I have Iphone 3G ... with stock 3.1.3 Location Service works fine .. with 4.2.1 ... again no problem with my GPS .. but with whited00r its totally dead. :( (
I like very much Whited00r it brings life again in my apps but I want to use it with full working features  :'(
Another problem of "Factory Unlocked Iphone 3G" is always working celluar data .. it eat my money .. and now my card is empty it was prepaid with 10$ now its 0$.
I think we need new version of whited00r :(
Thank you for all that u did .. but it need some correction!
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on March 30, 2013, 12:25:36 PM
when i probe this on terminal:


launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist

launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist


i recibed this message:
bug: launchctl.c:2328 (23906):13: (dbfd = open(g_job_overrides_db_launchctl: couldn`t stat("/system/library/launchdaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist") : no such file or directory


any solution to fix this bug???
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 30, 2013, 02:52:24 PM
Ohhhhh... that makes me think it is a whited00r disabled thing O.o   had you done any file system mods or installed anything from cydia recently?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: alveola666 on March 31, 2013, 08:58:47 AM
My location couldn't be determined too both on stock 3.1.3 and Whited00r *normal*
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 31, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
My location couldn't be determined too both on stock 3.1.3 and Whited00r *normal*
what baseband?   Does it work on 4.2.1 though?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: alveola666 on March 31, 2013, 04:23:07 PM
My location couldn't be determined too both on stock 3.1.3 and Whited00r *normal*
what baseband?   Does it work on 4.2.1 though?
04.05.04_G
4.2.1 on 1st gen? ;)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 31, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
Oh right, sorry ;)  I wasn't looking at your info at the side ;)   Have you tried the loading/unloading of the daemon?   (if not I will tell you how).

Does the location work over wifi only?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: alveola666 on March 31, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Oh right, sorry ;)  I wasn't looking at your info at the side ;)   Have you tried the loading/unloading of the daemon?   (if not I will tell you how).

Does the location work over wifi only?
No, I didn't manage with daemon.
Location doesn't work neither by wifi nor edge
By the way, there's no GPS module in i2g so how location can be determined?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on March 31, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
It determines it by either the cell towers or wifi (but in your case it doesn't work even by wifi, which is bad...).

Are you behind a VPN/Firewall?   Does it give the error "Your location could not be determined", or does it keep searching forever?

Try this and see if it helps then if you haven't tried reloading the daemon:
Reload location (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg74779.html#msg74779) daemon
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on March 31, 2013, 11:00:55 PM
I have same problem i brought it a service day make it 4.2.1 and unlocked(5.13.04) works everything only problem with GPS :S ....
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on March 31, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
Have you tried it on whited00r with that baseband?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on April 01, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
Yes i only use whited00r unlocked 3.1.3 and my baseband is 5.13.04 and only my GPS is wrong ipusher everything is perfect
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 01, 2013, 12:56:46 AM
Which whited00r version are you using on your device (Normal or unlocked?)   I had to ask that because you said service unlocked, not sure if you mean it was factory unlocked, or else you used the unlocked whited00r version ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on April 01, 2013, 11:04:17 AM
Its not factory unlocked and i use whited00r unlocked :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 01, 2013, 02:10:09 PM
Ahhhh... It could be just one of those hacktivation things, but I doubt it.   Have you tried it on 4.2.1 with baseband 06.15.00?  Just to see if the GPS works at all?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on April 01, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
before i install whited00r i have got on 4.2.1 5.13.04 so i don't wanna do this option because too much time and i had a GPS before whited00r .. maybe any plist or anything can't help for me or any gadget maybe ? :S
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 01, 2013, 05:51:31 PM
So you did have GPS working before installing whited00r?   Was 4.2.1 hacktivated too for you?   (I'm wondering if it is a problem with the hacktivation).   

There is no specific way to fix GPS not working, as on that baseband it should be working :/  (so there isn't really debugging there :/  ).

If you did try the loading/unloading the daemon, then that's about the only solution I know about :/


Can it find your location by only using wifi?  (turn airplane mode on and then turn wifi back on and try).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on April 01, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
I did it before i write here and its not help .
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 01, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
What about by using only wifi?  Can it find your location then?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: zone on April 02, 2013, 04:26:27 AM
Ohh great :) at the capital i have gps so maybe worth signal at my town but on the original basban i had but the my gps is not bad good :)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on April 02, 2013, 09:20:58 AM
i probe to reload this daemon:

launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist

launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist


i recibed this message:
bug: launchctl.c:2328 (23906):13: (dbfd = open(g_job_overrides_db_launchctl: couldn`t stat("/system/library/launchdaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist") : no such file or directory


any solution to fix this bug???


i dont intall anything of cydia , i make new intallation but gps not working i dont know how fix this bug you can help me bcooperizcool???
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 02, 2013, 01:57:19 PM
So it is just a matter of bad coverage then? 
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 02, 2013, 02:12:20 PM
It is at this point I really have no idea :/   it could be the baseband doesn't work good in your area, as simple as that, but I can't test because I'm not over there :(

Any other mods/people here:  Do any of you know why this might be caused?  Not being able to find location only on 3.1.3 (after doing everything correctly as well, and trying different versions of whited00r with different basebands).
Title: Re: GPS problem - No Satellites above my Town?
Post by: PierreP on April 02, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
Ohh great :) at the capital i have gps so maybe worth signal at my town but on the original basban i had but the my gps is not bad good :)

So you have satellites flying over the capital but not over your town.  :)  :)  :)

You are testing your internet connection and the ability of Google Maps to download it's maps, not the GPS itself it seems.

Go to App Time Machine and search for GPS and download those apps and see if GPS Kit or SOSGPS are showing your GPS position for example.

iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 running Whited00r 6 > Settings > General > enabled Location Services, I went outside of my house to have a clear unobstructed view of the sky and the CIA's killer drones GPS satellites.  :o  After a few minutes for the initialization of the GPS: Bingo!

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPSKit_iPhone_3G_PierreP.png)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on April 02, 2013, 05:21:55 PM
because when i go to reload this daemon:

launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist

launchctl load /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locationd.plist


i recibed this message:
 no such file or directory


i have this file because no such this file ???
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: AnimateDread on April 02, 2013, 05:23:21 PM
The command should be launchctl load -w
or try to see in the LaunchDaemons folder if the daemons is there
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 02, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
It doesn't really matter that much, but I think it might actually be an iOS4 daemon O.o 
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on April 02, 2013, 05:31:35 PM
i have this daemond but when i white this comand on terminal not working good , i dont understand because on ios 3.1.3 not working gps and on ios 4.2.1 gps its working good

and another questiong because whatsapp working on ios 3.1.3 its not necesary  verify my phone number but on ios 4.2.1 i need verify my phone number
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 02, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
You probably messed up on the path of the daemon, it is case sensitive.

I don't know why either :/


For whatsapp, take a look here:
[50% Solved] WhatsApp WD6 Problem - Partially Working Update! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7068.0.html)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on April 03, 2013, 05:10:30 PM
Finally i restore to ios 4.2.1 and install line and viber  my gps working good and everthing working perfect  i dont have whatsapp but i dont make anything to solved it.
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 03, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
Finally i restore to ios 4.2.1 and install line and viber  my gps working good and everthing working perfect  i dont have whatsapp but i dont make anything to solved it.
I do wish I knew why GPS wasn't working for you :(  Sorry we couldn't solve the problem :/

If you still want some form of custom firmware stuff, take a look at Archetype -- Custom firmware package for every iOS (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,6849.0.html).

Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Facesnights on April 03, 2013, 05:49:44 PM
i probe archetipe on ios 4.2.1 and not working good my friend , another question :  how install apptimemachine on ios 4.2.1??? you know how make this?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 03, 2013, 06:55:33 PM
i probe archetipe on ios 4.2.1 and not working good my friend , another question :  how install apptimemachine on ios 4.2.1??? you know how make this?
it isn't? :(

You can't, it is whited00r exclusive. :/
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: foxyland on April 04, 2013, 05:08:34 AM
(OT)

You can't, it is whited00r exclusive. :/

(like this  ;D)

Honestly, app time machine is the first reason why my wife would not let me to go back to original firmware. She prefers to 'not having GPS' rather than 'not having app time machine'

(and she will allow me to mess with her iphone this next weekend --- I'll try to reinstall whited00r 6 again)

foxyland
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: alveola666 on April 04, 2013, 05:20:41 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: azimech49 on April 06, 2013, 07:05:49 PM
i actually have the same issue as rafa_beloh

iphone 3g

iOS 4.2.1 BB 05.13.04 detects location perfectly
iOS 4.2.1 BB 05.15.04 detects location perfectly
iOS 4.2.1 BB 06.15.00 detects location perfectly

whited00r 6 BB 05.13.04 just aproximates location, about 4 blocks away from my current position.

i have on the same table, 2 iphone 3gs, another 3g 4.2.1, a SE Vivaz and a SE x10 mini pro, all of them are accurate on the map location, so its not bad reception nor hardware problem.

there is certainly something fishy around here.

i would say it is because of the way iOS 3 works, but some of you guys have whited00r 6 and perfect location, so im out of ideas
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
"(and she will allow me to mess with her iphone this next weekend --- I'll try to reinstall whited00r 6 again)"

I Understand her .. the same problem that I have. I tried it reinstaling ... a lot of times .. everythime 2 things
1st - No GPS with whited00r moded OS ... and always "Your location could not be determined"
2nd - always use "Celluar Data" there is no stop option in Settings menu

This two things are usual for Factory Unlocked Iphone 3G ... and Whited00r Normal version.

Now I use original 4.2.1 with Archetype .. bit it's slow and have no apps ... no facebook .. no skype .. no games .. nothing .. :((
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 06, 2013, 08:22:55 PM
Did you ever try the whited00r unlocked version?  Just to see if it made any difference?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 08:24:10 PM
azimech49 ... yes .. that is what I repeat all the time!
I'm sure your Iphone 3G is Factory Unlocked as mine is!
Buddy ... the problem is in Whited00r 6 .. its great thing but kills GPS and there is no way to stop it's Cell Data from settings :(
if that two things were worked .. it could be the perfect OS for 3G  ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 06, 2013, 08:28:16 PM
Have either of you tried stock 3.1.3 to see if either of those things work on it though? 

For the data toggle in the settings, no, there isn't a quick way, but there is ways to disable it.
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 08:29:19 PM
Yes but .. it always says "Searching" for network!
With Normal version it finds the carier very fast and it work well!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: azimech49 on April 06, 2013, 08:32:45 PM
i just flashed WD6 back again after giving up, its not my phone so i really dont mind about the problem.

but i did try 3.1.2 AND 3.1.3, they work.

like in the whatsapp thread, its better to get a new iphone if people cant take the time to fiddle with different configurations and settings.
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 06, 2013, 08:34:02 PM
Yes but .. it always says "Searching" for network!
Ah :/   
I know this says for a specific baseband, but you could try the steps about removing/installing ultrasn0w:
[Solved] whited00r 6 iPhone 3G NO SERVICE NO NETWORK Baseband 05.15.04 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index?topic=7243.0)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 08:40:58 PM
If you have money to buy 4s or 5 yes but .. my car is cheaper than Iphone 5 :D
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 06, 2013, 08:43:03 PM
i just flashed WD6 back again after giving up, its not my phone so i really dont mind about the problem.

but i did try 3.1.2 AND 3.1.3, they work.

like in the whatsapp thread, its better to get a new iphone if people cant take the time to fiddle with different configurations and settings.
So it looks like it is a whited00r specific thing O.o   Unusual.   I wish there was some sort of connection between all the users that are having the issues, but there seems not to be one :/   
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
Lets Analyze the problem
I did some tests with different Basebands on my 3G with Original stock OSes ...
 4.2.1 + 5.15.04 = work well but accuracy .. 100-200m away
 3.1.3 + 5.15.04 = Can't stop EDGE .. & GPS "Your location could not be determined"

after that I wanted to try to donwgrade Baseband with redsn0w .. but it told me that it doesn't support 3.1.3
than I upgrade it again to 4.2.1 and made Baseband downgrade ... and guess what

6.15.00 + 4.2.1 = 100% accuracy GPS
 .. it's more than perfect .. but I was afraid about battery drain that some said..
 and I downgrade it with redsn0w .. after that it was
05.13.04 + 4.2.1 and again not the best position .. it was again 100-200m away .. after that I installed
whited00r Unlocked (mine is factory unlocked but I tried Unlocked not Normal version) ... and there was again "Your location could not be determined" and if 3G works it works good with carrier without remove Ultrasn0w from Cydia... so I think to try 06.15.00 + 3.1.3 ... maybe it is the best possible Modem Firmware .. it prove itself for GPS ... 5.15.04 & 05.13.04 didn't on 4.2.1

I'm sorry .. the problem isnt in Whited00r ... it's in Modem Baseband (5.15.04 & 05.13.04) .. it has bad support with 3.1.3 but we have only three posible BBs 5.15.04 , 05.13.04 & 06.15.00 we can't downgrade more than that :(

So now I'll try 06.15.00 with 3.1.3 and post what happend  ;)
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 06, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
So the situation is as follows .. navigation refuses to work with any of the third possible options in the modem firmware 3.1.3

Is it really possible to install 05.12.01
http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g

it's the older BB .. maybe only with it the GPS will work on  3.1.3

I'll try it tomorrow .. it's too late now
Good Night & Sweet Dreams  :P
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 06, 2013, 11:18:27 PM
Thank you for the very thorough posts :)  It seems to only happen randomly to people that the basebands don't work sadly :/   

Yes, it is possible to downgrade to that baseband, you just need to find the firmware that first had it.  (I think 4.1? )
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 07, 2013, 08:51:39 AM
I read that Guide http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g
but there is something that I can't understand! ... When I do Baseband Downgrade there is no "missing information" in General>About>Modem Firmware ... it just downgrades from 06.15.00 to 05.13.04 ...
I understand that if I want to reflash BB it must be formatted(missing information).. without any write on it .. after that it should write stock BB from 3.1.3 but how can I just format it without installing 05.13.04 ?!?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 07, 2013, 01:46:57 PM
I think it only goes blank for some people, if using the custom firmware linked there.
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 09, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
But that link don't exist anymore

 http://www.whited00r.com/tools/iPhone1,2_4.2.1_for_06.15.00_baseband.zip

The page you are looking for could not be found.
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Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 09, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
Oh right, the link is still down :(   I can't fix that link, all I can do is email people who can change it, and I have done that twice and had no response :/

Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: mattewre on April 10, 2013, 06:28:10 AM
Link fixed. Please confirm
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Speedmeter on April 11, 2013, 03:58:13 PM
Yes link is fixed ... I have download it and installed it on my 3G .. after that "Downgrade from Ipad's Baseband" .. and guess what .. no blank ... 05.13.04 ... Then installed Original Firmware 3.1.3 .. and Error 1015.. Boot with Ireb .. and Modem was again 05.13.04 .. how I can downgrade it on 05.12.01 :( ?!?
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: Bruan on April 11, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
Yes link is fixed ... I have download it and installed it on my 3G .. after that "Downgrade from Ipad's Baseband" .. and guess what .. no blank ... 05.13.04 ... Then installed Original Firmware 3.1.3 .. and Error 1015.. Boot with Ireb .. and Modem was again 05.13.04 .. how I can downgrade it on 05.12.01 :( ?!?
Try restoring to stock 4.2.1, then to the 4.2.1 with the iPad baseband, then follow all the steps, using Redsn0w 0.9.14b2 as linked in that tutorial (if you weren't already).  Also need to use iReb or similar to enter PWNED DFU mode when restoring to 3.1.3 :)

That is the only way to downgrade to 05.12.01 sadly :/ 
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 15, 2013, 06:01:19 PM
Hi all,
I found this topic cause I discovered my Iphone3G had problem with GPS.
Maps was unable to find location.
I don't know how this happened as I need to use GPS after a long time I don't.
My baseband is 05.13.04 and my phone is unlocked by default.
I tried to flash WD6 Normal fw WITHOUT recover from backup(fresh install), just to give a try...and...it works!
So....I really don't know but I think there is a setting that crashes GPS...
Tnx for your suggests.
Title: Re: iPhone 3G & iPad Baseband 06.15.00 GPS Working? A-GPS Info
Post by: PierreP on April 15, 2013, 06:52:55 PM
...iphone 3g...

iOS 4.2.1 BB 06.15.00 detects location perfectly...

Sorry but that is next to IMPOSSIBLE because that modem firmware (a.k.a. baseband) 06.15.00 was made by Apple for iPad 1 which did not have GPS capability so that baseband does NOT have anything enabling a GPS antenna.

FYI: iOS 3.2.1 for iPad, build Wildcat 7B405, firmware version: iPad1,1_3.2.1_7B405_Restore.ipsw

From the iPhone Wiki's baseband firmware 06.15.00 (http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/06.15.00) for the Wi-Fi+3G iPad that Apple bundles with iOS 3.2-3.2.2 page:

Quote
The benefit is that it allows for unlocking the phone. The downside is that it breaks GPS functionality, however it can be downgraded again to 05.13.04, which will restore GPS functionality and still have the vulnerability.

I had that iPad Baseband 06.15.00 on my iPhone 3G that was running the dog-slow stock iOS 4.2.1, jailbroken & unlocked and the real GPS never worked.  :-\

If you are testing GPS with Google Maps then it is probably using A-GPS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS) (also called aGPS: Assisted GPS) which is using the cellular towers to triangulate your approximate position and it's Google Maps cache. Or it is using your WiFi's network IP to do the same approximation.

Instead of using the actual GPS satellite-based positioning system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_positioning_system). For example:

...Interestingly when i open the maps app and press the arrow, it first locates the approximate location of my wifi (probably sniffed by google i assume) and then shifts to the approximate location of where i used to live 1,5 years ago - the last time i used the iPhone 3G with the original shipped SIM!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 15, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
Hi all,
I found this topic cause I discovered my Iphone3G had problem with GPS.
Maps was unable to find location.
I don't know how this happened as I need to use GPS after a long time I don't.
My baseband is 05.13.04 and my phone is unlocked by default.
I tried to flash WD6 Normal fw WITHOUT recover from backup(fresh install), just to give a try...and...it works!
So....I really don't know but I think there is a setting that crashes GPS...
Tnx for your suggests.
It might be the commcenter patch, if that is still in...  Good to know it might just be the unlocked version that gives people issues though!

Thank you for posting, and welcome to the forums by the way :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 18, 2013, 08:54:56 AM
Quote
It might be the commcenter patch, if that is still in...  Good to know it might just be the unlocked version that gives people issues though!

I'm trying to analyze as I want to understand  :)
I'm really surprised...the problem seems to appear without a reason.
In the second trial problem came after itunes massively apps sync. So nothing that involves Cydia or Cydia's stuff.
I thought about some app that "crashes" GPS.
Last trial problem came after a reboot. I only put via IFunbox camera images and sms and I have few apps installed (Facebook, Stanza, Twitter, Viber).
I'm starting to think about a WD6 issue...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 19, 2013, 02:16:06 PM
Well...i got it!
Issue was in my brain :D
WiFi is "the key": I never paid attention to wifi switch. It MUST be on to let GPS work (I really don't understand why...).
Cheers
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 19, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Well...i got it!
Issue was in my brain :D
WiFi is "the key": I never paid attention to wifi switch. It MUST be on to let GPS work (I really don't understand why...).
Cheers
Thank you for reporting with that find :)

Does it need to be connected to a network, or just on, not connected to work?  Because if it is connected to a network, it is using the wifi to find the location, not the GPS.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 21, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
It need just to be on. I really don't understand the reason as it should use A-GPS and GPS if wifi isn't available.
I can't say if it's related to WD6 or it was the same way in WD5 or other "fresh" firmwares.
Maybe can someone give a try? I'm tired of backups and restores :D
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 21, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
It need just to be on. I really don't understand the reason as it should use A-GPS and GPS if wifi isn't available.
I can't say if it's related to WD6 or it was the same way in WD5 or other "fresh" firmwares.
Maybe can someone give a try? I'm tired of backups and restores :D
This is a really interesting find, I will start recommending this to other users who can't fix their GPS, as I have never heard of this before :O 

Thank you again for reporting that in!  :)

Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Speedmeter on April 22, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
I have reinstalled basebands and Operational Systems so many times .. I lost the count ... but same thing every time .. no matther is WiFi ON or OFF ... the GPS on those two Basebands don't even try to work it's totally dead ... it don't make a try to show the marker in right side of the clock upper in the screen.. NOPE .... that doesnt work .. there is no way to make it downgrade at 05.12.01 ... so there is no solution for my Iphone 3g Factory Unlocked ... I would try Redd00r  :-X
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 22, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
I have reinstalled basebands and Operational Systems so many times .. I lost the count ... but same thing every time .. no matther is WiFi ON or OFF ... the GPS on those two Basebands don't even try to work it's totally dead ... it don't make a try it to show the marker in right side of the clock upper in the screen.. NOPE .... that doesnt work .. there is no way to make it downgrade at 05.12.01 ... so there is no solution for my Iphone 3g Factory Unlocked ... I would try Redd00r  :-X
What version of whited00r?  Unlocked or normal?  ;)

Also, does it work on stock 4.2.1?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Speedmeter on April 22, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
Yes .. it work on 4.2.1 ... I don't know what is it .. A-GPS or GPS .. but if I have connected to Internet and Open Maps
It shows my location! I Use Normal .. because my phone is Factory Unlocked :(
The GPS icon is in left side of the battery icon in 4.2.1 and it work perfect!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 22, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
There is some way to make it downgrade to 05.12.01, but it doesn't work for everybody.  Have you looked at Whited00r tutorial - downgrade iPhone baseband (http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g) to see if you can get the blank baseband? 
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Speedmeter on April 22, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Yep I try it couple times ... I don't get blank, it just downgrades to 05.13.04, after i choose Downgrade from Ipad baseband in Redsn0w ...  I installed Redd00r but it's special function is not finished .. I mean D00rstore ... :(( .. so Redd00r at this point is useless .. because there is no software for it .. it has no TimeMaschine like Whited00r .. I read that tutorial (http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g) so many times ... try it many times .. I lost hope :-\
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 22, 2013, 06:05:37 PM
What basebands have you tried on 3.1.3? 
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: conansaga on April 23, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
What basebands have you tried on 3.1.3?

Hi Everyone,

I have exact same problem with my IPhone 3G and GPS as previous posters stated in this thread.
My Iphone 3G was factory unlocked originally running on IOS 4.2.1 (baseband 05.15.04) and after I installed "Whited00r 3G normal" version I noticed GPS doesn't work - no matter what I try I get "Can't determine your location".
I then searched Whited00r forumus and followed almost everything suggested :

- Upgraded baseband to 06.15.00
GPS works flawlessly with this baseband but only when I use official IOS 4.2.1. I know someone mentioned here that is impossible as 06.15.00 was Ipad firmware and it doesn't include GPS support but I can insure everyone that it works. I am even prepared to take screenshots or actual video if someone needs a proof and by the way reason why I opened this account and decided to reply to this thread is to confirm that 06.15.00 GPS works with official 4.2.1 on factory unlocked Iphone 3G.

- Downgraded baseband from 06.15.00 to 05.13.04
Was hoping to get 05.12.01 and tried few times following different methods but it keeps on adding 5.13.04, I am unable to get blank baseband value.

- Root account usage with suggested values (launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple etc.) . Doesn't work
- Fresh Whited00r install - nothing
- Hard reset - nothing
- Location services on with 3G on, Location services on with Wi-FI on - nothing

* Just to mention once again that GPS on my device works normally (takes 4 sec to lock GPS) on retail 4.2.1 no matter which baseband I use

What I can gather from my own experience and what other users have reported clearly the problem is on the relation Whited00r -> baseband 06.15.00,05.15.04,05.13.04 - that is at least for factory unlocked IPhone 3G.

I think the solution here would be to get 05.12.01 baseband in the combination with Whited00r normal but it seems like that is mission impossible for some users who are unable to get blank baseband value (myself included).

Any ideas how to downgrade baseband from 05.13.04  to 05.12.01?



 
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 23, 2013, 11:27:37 PM
I think it is very difficult to get the blank baseband, I have never gotten it myself :/   I think most of the users reporting GPS issues are factory unlocked.  One thing I would suggest just trying, just to see if it helps any, is to install the unlocked version of whited00r (yes, I know, another download ;) ). 

The team is working on testing all possible ways to get the baseband downgraded to the right version, but it is hard when we ourselves cannot get these bugs that are happening to people :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: conansaga on April 24, 2013, 08:15:37 AM
I think it is very difficult to get the blank baseband, I have never gotten it myself :/   I think most of the users reporting GPS issues are factory unlocked.  One thing I would suggest just trying, just to see if it helps any, is to install the unlocked version of whited00r (yes, I know, another download ;) ). 

The team is working on testing all possible ways to get the baseband downgraded to the right version, but it is hard when we ourselves cannot get these bugs that are happening to people :(

No prob, another download is not end of the day :)

Just to mention that you guys have done amazing job with this project!
Due to mysterious and unexpected major malfunction (screen dead) of my beloved Android device and highs cost of repair (300eu+, warranty not accepted) frustrated I decided to save some cash and try to use my old IPhone 3G instead. When I first started to use it with normal retail 4.2.1, I immediately remembered how slow device was :)
Then I found out about Whited00r and decided to try it. After trial run, I was pleasantly surprised how much everything has improved on my device. Phone was much faster overall, new IOS look, Cydia and Time Machine are great add ons, video option, Skype,Viber, etc.
Whited00r has literally brought new life into my (almost) 6 year old Iphone device!
Yes GPS doesn't work currently and What's Up app too but compared to what else is working properly I honestly think old IPhone users are absolute winners here. My Iphone 3G with Whited00r on it eats cheaper Android devices for breakfast :)

Thanks once again for fast reply Bcooperizcool, I will post here if I was successful getting back GPS with unlocked version of Whited00r.

 
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 24, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
Hi,
that's me again  :)
I found through Navigon that GPS signal is not available and localization is only via A-GPS (cellular network).
Keeping device in "open sky" for a long time without luck.

Just for recap:
-Iphone 3G factory unlocked
-WD6 Normal
-Baseband 05.15.04
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 24, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
I think I'm seeing a pattern here with factory unlocked people not being able to use location services...

Everyone having issues, try turning wifi on, even if you aren't connected to it, because one person found it helped, and I did too (although I could turn it off after that and I was still fine).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: conansaga on April 24, 2013, 08:17:48 PM
I think I'm seeing a pattern here with factory unlocked people not being able to use location services...

Everyone having issues, try turning wifi on, even if you aren't connected to it, because one person found it helped, and I did too (although I could turn it off after that and I was still fine).

Tried with Wi-Fi on it doesn't help and also just tried with Whited00r unlocked version same as before :(
Well it seems that GPS is no no for people with factory unlocked IPhone 3G -  that's at least current situation...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 24, 2013, 08:37:23 PM
So the unlocked version didn't help either :/   I guess we need to find someone who has an unlocked phone with it working :(  Then see what baseband and such they are on.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 27, 2013, 09:32:07 PM
I tried downgrade to 5.13.04 fw.
I follow a guide to first upgrading to 6.15.00 and then downgrading to it.
During the process, I tried GPS on 4.2.1 fw(required by intermediate steps) and it worked perfectly!
In the end with WD6 GPS dead again and only A-GPS.
Is GPS software disabled in WD6 maybe?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 27, 2013, 09:49:20 PM
I tried downgrade to 5.13.04 fw.
I follow a guide to first upgrading to 6.15.00 and then downgrading to it.
During the process, I tried GPS on 4.2.1 fw(required by intermediate steps) and it worked perfectly!
In the end with WD6 GPS dead again and only A-GPS.
Is GPS software disabled in WD6 maybe?


No, it is an issue with 3.1.3 :/  (and possibly the unlock on that version).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 27, 2013, 10:22:59 PM
Quote from: bcooperizcool
No, it is an issue with 3.1.3 :/  (and possibly the unlock on that version).
Confirmed! I tried a "fresh" 3.1.3 and same issue!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 27, 2013, 10:32:58 PM
Confirmed! I tried a "fresh" 3.1.3 and same issue!
Is it unlocked on 3.1.3, or factory unlocked still doesn't work?  Thank you for confirming that though, that is good to know it isn't just whited00r!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 28, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Factory unlocked and doesn't work.  :)
I did other trials collecting old suggests for gps fix like "reset network settings in settings" and "load/unload module".
Keeping device in open sky for 5 minutes and using MotionX-GPS....suddenly gps signal appear!
"Pulsing point" and good accuracy in Maps confirm it!
But...but...I can't reproduce it  :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 28, 2013, 01:41:13 PM
Ohhh :(  So it seems to be an issue wit 3.1.3 then :(  Not sure how we can fix that :/   It could be something to do with the basebands on the different firmwares, but there is no repeatable way to downgrade to an even lower one :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 28, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
What does exactly "reset network" do?
If there's something that involves baseband...so it's a baseband business!
I have the scientific (aka reproducible) procedure: network reset says wake up to gps. But after few hours gps sleeps again.
It's a workaround due to fact that "network reset" deletes all stored wifi passwords  :(
I attached a screen with working GPS. (privacy on coordinates :D)
Thank you for your attention! :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 28, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
I didn't think the network reset button messed with cellular information, but I guess it does! :o  Good find on that!  That may actually allow for a fix, if we can find out exactly what it does to the GPS/cellular, and then reproduce that on say, the touch of a button, but keep the wifi passwords and such :)

I will poke around with the reset button (although I can't tell when something I does work mind you, because my GPS is perfect :/  I wish I did have errors :P ), and see what I can get, and see what sort of code it calls off (although it hidden).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on April 29, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
Thank you!
I'm available for testing :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: JustinCase on April 30, 2013, 12:29:11 AM
Hahah Brian, thats the first time i've heard someone wish for errors
Title: Whited00r 6 or iOS 4.2.1 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on April 30, 2013, 01:21:16 AM
I currently have 3 iPhone 3G at my disposal, all connected to WiFi, one is on WD 6, the other on WD 6.1.3 beta that the team is testing and the third on iOS 4.2.1.

All 3 are on baseband 05.13.04 and ALL have GPS not working in Google Maps.  :-\
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 or iOS 4.2.1 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 30, 2013, 02:46:49 AM
I currently have 3 iPhone 3G at my disposal, all connected to WiFi, one is on WD 6, the other on WD 6.1.3 beta that the team is testing and the third on iOS 4.2.1.

All 3 are on baseband 05.13.04 and ALL have GPS not working in Google Maps.  :-\
What about not in google maps?  Did you try resetting network settings?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 or iOS 4.2.1 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on April 30, 2013, 06:51:10 AM
What about not in google maps?  Did you try resetting network settings?

Installed MotionX from App Time Machine on all 3 and all report no GPS signal, outdoor, clear sky.

None have SIM's, network should have nothing to do with satellites, WiFi just for downloading maps for Google Maps but MotionX does not need maps to report GPS position.

I'm running multiple tests and will report later.
Title: FIX - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on April 30, 2013, 10:12:34 AM
Hi. I have the same problem with GPS but on stock 4.2.1 on my 3G. I find solution! Just downolad from internet com.apple.locationd.plist and replace in file system then restart yout iPhone. Now GPS is working perfect :)

I just download from the first link in Uncle Google :-) Edit: This is the link: http://www.4shared.com/file/LrbGolTg/comapplelocationd.html

Edit by bcooperizcool to provide the following steps
Then using iTools (http://itools.hk/en_index.htm) or another iPhone file browser back up the original file from /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/ by naming it to com.apple.locationd.bak
Then drag/copy over the file you downloaded into that directory
After that, use iFile from Cydia and navigate to that directory, and tap the blue arrow next to a daemon other than the one you just put in (doesn't matter which one). Take a note of the permissions and ownerships of the file, and then modify the com.apple.locationd.plist to match that of it. (by tapping the blue arrow on it and then changing the permissions/ownerships)


PierreP moderator note: added direct link to the file and attached it to this message. Unrar (unzip) first!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 30, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
Hi. I have the same problem with GPS but on stock 4.2.1 on my 3G. I find solution! Just downolad from internet com.apple.locationd.plist and replace in file system then restart yout iPhone. Now GPS is working perfect :)

I just download from the first link in Uncle Google :-)
Welcome to the forums :)   
You think it is an issue with the daemon for the location services? 
Just having everyone google that could get wildly different results in different parts of the world ;)  do you have a specific link?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on April 30, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
Hi :) I don't know but that fix my problem with GPS
This is the link http://www.4shared.com/file/LrbGolTg/comapplelocationd.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/LrbGolTg/comapplelocationd.html)




PierreP moderator note: 4shared ask for login so I downloaded the file & attached above to Zulwiczek's original post above.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 30, 2013, 04:18:13 PM
Hi :) I don't know but that fix my problem with GPS
This is te link http://www.4shared.com/file/LrbGolTg/comapplelocationd.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/LrbGolTg/comapplelocationd.html)
Thank you :) Hopefully someone else with location services tries that and sees if it works :)

(More for advanced users, I hope PierreP tries it ;) )
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on April 30, 2013, 06:09:19 PM
No problem. If somebody tried this and it will work just report :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: JustinCase on April 30, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
I should set up a google doc type thing for error reporting
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on April 30, 2013, 07:47:58 PM
Thank you :) Hopefully someone else with location services tries that and sees if it works :)

(More for advanced users, I hope PierreP tries it ;) )

Could you edit Zulwiczek's original post above and include where it should be installed and with which tools?  ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on April 30, 2013, 07:57:12 PM
Could you edit Zulwiczek's original post above and include where it should be installed and with which tools?  ;)
Done :)  You can also set the permissions manually via terminal, but for the average user (who may want to test this out), that would be more easy to mess something up than using iFile.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on May 01, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Yes. i use iFile, it's best for any apple phone or ipod. Is it work bcooperizcool? Have you now a GPS working?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 01, 2013, 01:18:43 PM
Yes. i use iFile, it's best for any apple phone or ipod. Is it work bcooperizcool? Have you now a GPS working?
As I said, I can't test it because my GPS is working fine :(  I just had to give instructions in case anyone else wanted to try.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on May 01, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Ok. i understand :-) We can just wait. i hope that just work to other our friends from forum
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 01, 2013, 03:27:01 PM
Ok. i understand :-) We can just wait. i hope that just work to other our friends from forum
If it does end up working for people, I could put it into a .deb and host it on either my repo, or the repod00r (whenever that gets cleaned up).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on May 01, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
It doesn't work for me :(

p.s.: Someone in another forum reported an info from Matteo (Whited00r developer) conceirning Safari fast browsing feature that disabled via software the GPS module. Do you know anything about?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 01, 2013, 07:08:34 PM
It doesn't work for me :(

p.s.: Someone in another forum reported an info from Matteo (Whited00r developer) conceirning Safari fast browsing feature that disabled via software the GPS module. Do you know anything about?
I have not heard anything about that, and I don't think that is it as the problem persists on 3.1.3 stock jailbroken too, not just whited00r :/

I will bring it up though and see what comes out of it :)
Title: Re: App to Test GPS?
Post by: PierreP on May 04, 2013, 02:58:26 AM
As I said, I can't test it because my GPS is working fine...

Which app did you use to check if your GPS was working on your iPhone 3G? Which iOS are you running @ the present?

It doesn't work for me :( ...

What did not work + what is your modem firmware (a.k.a. baseband) + same questions as for Brian above please.  :o
Title: Re: App to Test GPS?
Post by: Bruan on May 04, 2013, 03:25:42 AM
Which app did you use to check if your GPS was working on your iPhone 3G? Which iOS are you running @ the present?

I used the stock maps app (which is what people normally have issues with first).  Whited00r 6, stock 3.1.3, and stock 4.2.1 to test it, with baseband 05.13.04. 
Title: App to Test GPS - MotionX-GPS Better than Google Maps
Post by: PierreP on May 04, 2013, 05:55:10 AM
I used the stock Google maps app (which is what people normally have issues with first).  Whited00r 6, stock 3.1.3, and stock 4.2.1 to test it, with baseband 05.13.04.

The native iOS Maps app using Google maps titles is not a good app to test GPS (Global Positioning System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System)) because:

1- It requires 3G data or WiFi to access the net to get it's map or satellite imagery.

2- It uses WiFi triangulation, A-GPS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS) (or aGPS: Assited GPS) & it's data cache on the device and will show a position even if the real satellite GPS locking is not working.

3- It does not give you GPS coordinates nor altitude nor GPS signal reception strength.

*****

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/MotionX_GPS_iPhone_3G_WD_B5_PierreP.png)

A- For lucky Whited00r 6 users: go to App Time Machine (ATM), search for MotionX and download & install for free MotionX-GPS v12.3 which requires iOS 3.1 & newer. Other may fish on the web for a file to be installed with the free iTools (http://itools.hk/) (click on English to download) or other iPhone browsers: MotionX v12.3 "ipa" (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MotionX+v12.3+%22ipa%22)

You can also get GPS Kit in ATM or the free GPS Info! in iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gps-info!/id333178016?mt=8) (Requires iOS 3.0 or later).

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_test_iPhone_3G_MotionX-GPS_GPS_Kit_GPS_Info_PierreP.png)

B- Go outside & make sure you have a clear unobstructed 360 degree view of the sky so the CIA's  :o & civilian satellites can see you.

The satellite GPS antenna is located in the top of the iPhone 3G just below & between the headphone jack & power button, left of the camera, so don't cover that part with your hand if you want a good GPS reception.

C- iPhone 3G > Settings > General > enable Location Services.

D- Start MotionX-GPS, answer Yes if it ask you for permission to use your location then tap the planet icon and select Outdoor GPS Mode as illustrated. Tap the GPS/Home button to return to the main window and tap again to scroll through the Map & Compass tabs back to the GPS data. BTW compass is not working on the iPhone 3G because it does not have that feature in it's hardware.  :-\

E- It may take up to 12 minutes the first time your iPhone acquires satellites signals after flashing the firmware so be patient.

The GPS chipset & antenna in the iPhone 3G is old & limited and does not have multi channels nor does it support the Russian GLONASS satellite navigation system like on recent devices and that is why you need 12 minutes minimum to lock on 4 satellites because that is the time they take to send their data to the iPhone 3G.

F- If you do not get results similar to the last screen capture then turn off MotionX and do a hard reset and try it again:

Hard Reset often solve many problems: hold both Home & Power buttons until the Apple logo appears and let go of the buttons & smell the roses while it is doing it's thing.

No worries, hard reset will not change any of your info, tweaks & apps on the device.

(http://www.vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Hard_Reset_PierreP.jpg)


After getting a satellite lock with one of the GPS apps suggested above, open the iOS native Maps & you should have a single dot or small white circle indicating high accuracy location after tapping the arrow bottom left (or target icon) to activate the GPS chipset.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Maps_GPS_Test_iPhone_3G_iOS_3.1.3_bb_5.png)

*****

GPS was not working on my iPhone 3G w/ modem firmware (a.k.a. baseband) 05.13.04 running Whited00r 6 but Zulwiczek's trick here fixed it: FIX - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg78845.html#msg78845)  :)

Thank you Zulwiczek for reporting back about how you solved the GPS not working issue as it will help other Whited00r users with the same problem.   8)  So +1 Internets for you for giving back to the WD community. (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/Themes/WDVertex/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Zulwiczek on May 05, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
Thanks PierreP. i just used motionX and realy this is very good app. I'm so sad when i hiered that my "fix" doesen't work in every iPhone but it was be to sipmle hehe. I have a quastion, could somebody send me original file from iphone? File is called com.apple.searchd.plist , please :-)
Title: Re: com.apple.searchd.plist?
Post by: PierreP on May 05, 2013, 04:59:57 PM
...could somebody send me original file from iphone? File is called com.apple.searchd.plist , please :-)

For which device, for which iOS and why do you need that?  :o
Title: Off Topic Files Requests
Post by: Zulwiczek on May 05, 2013, 05:15:27 PM
<Post snipped by moderator>

Sorry, I had to delete your post because the rule #1 of the Whited00r forum is: one topic per thread & stay on topic.  :-\

Otherwise it will quickly turn into a unusable messy bordello like Facebook.  :o

And the topic of this thread is GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 so please post your off topic random files requests for iOS 4.2.1 here: Free Forum! - Everything Off Topic Elsewhere Goes Here! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/board,20.0.html)  ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on May 06, 2013, 07:42:38 AM
Hi PierreP,
a quick recap from previous posts where I did many experiments.
I was on WD6 with bb 05.15.04 and GPS was KO.
I downgraded following the procedure to bb 05.13.04 with WD6 and GPS was KO.
In both cases localization is only with WiFi and A-GPS. When i put WiFi toggle off, localization is KO.
During downgrade process I tried fw 3.1.3 and GPS was KO and fw 4.2.1 and GPS was OK, fully functioning.
I tried all suggested tricks (including com.apple.locationd.plist replacement) but the one helped me was "network reset settings": every time I did it, I lose WiFi pwds but GPS become functional. After few hours it goes KO.
I always used MotionX in all trials.
I'm wondering about what reset exactly does...maybe something related baseband?

Tnx

p.s.: 05.12.01 is "official" bb of 3.1.3 fw...is it related to all these problems??
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Firmware#iPhone_3G
Title: Reports Please! - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on May 06, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
Hi PierreP,
a quick recap from previous posts where I did many experiments.
I was on WD6 with bb 05.15.04 and GPS was KO.
I downgraded following the procedure to bb 05.13.04 with WD6 and GPS was KO.
In both cases localization is only with WiFi and A-GPS. When i put WiFi toggle off, localization is KO.
During downgrade process I tried fw 3.1.3 and GPS was KO and fw 4.2.1 and GPS was OK, fully functioning.
I tried all suggested tricks (including com.apple.locationd.plist replacement) but the one helped me was "network reset settings": every time I did it, I lose WiFi pwds but GPS become functional. After few hours it goes KO.
I always used MotionX in all trials.
I'm wondering about what reset exactly does...maybe something related baseband?

Tnx

p.s.: 05.12.01 is "official" bb of 3.1.3 fw...is it related to all these problems??
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Firmware#iPhone_3G

It is important to know that all our GPS problems and the complicated procedures to change the modem firmware (a.k.a. baseband or bb) or failures to flash the firmware like error 1015, recovery mode loop, etc. are caused by Apple that does not want us to do what we want on our devices that we paid for.  >:(

Apple discontinued the production of the iPhone 3G on June 4, 2010 so none of those are under contract from a cellular carrier anymore. So Apple could easily release a firmware with a new carrier unlocked baseband but that would mean that they care about the owners of their 1 & 2 generation device.  ::)

In the iPhoneWiki firmware page (http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Firmware#iPhone_3G) that you linked to, one can read that for the iPhone 3G all basebands from 02.28.00 to 05.13.04 are carrier unlockable.

Apple was not happy that users could unlock their iPhone 3G so they released & pushed through iTunes the update iOS 4.1 with the impossible to unlock modem firmware 05.14.02 and did the same with iOS 4.2.1 with the impossible to unlock 05.15.04 baseband.  :-\

For good measure, Apple prevents users from going back to lower unlockable modem firmwares.

So all users who do not have an iPhone 3G factory unlocked or the original SIM tied to the device need to do this if they want to unlock their iPhone to be able to use any SIM only if they are on baseband 05.14.02 or 05.15.04: > upgrade to iPad baseband 06.15.00 > then downgrade to unlockable 05.13.04 and then install Whited00r 6 Unlock version because Whited00r never changes the baseband.

This thread is about that baseband up & down game: [Solved] iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1 Free Unlock Baseband 05.15.04 05.14.02 - No Service (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7134.0.html)

All other iPhone 3G users that are getting cellular signal after installing the stock iOS 4.2.1 via iTunes using any SIM have the factory unlock so they do not need to mess around with the baseband and can install Whited00r 6 Normal version and benefit from the speed increase, App Time Machine free app store, etc and still be on Baseband 05.15.04.

Ghilgamesh, you wrote: ...and fw 4.2.1 and GPS was OK, fully functioning was that on baseband 05.15.04? If so then maybe your iPhone 3G is factory unlocked, test that by installing stock iOS 4.2.1 via iTunes (no tweaks, jailbreak or whatnot), turn off, install any SIM, turn back on and connect to iTunes.

If it gets activated and you have a cellular signal instead of "No service" it is factory unlocked so you can then test again the GPS before disconnecting, turning off the iPhone and iTunes, removing the SIM, use iREB to get the iPhone 3G in DFU Mode, connect to the computer and use iTunes to install Whited00r 6 Normal version as described here and don't forget to reboot twice before inserting your SIM (turn off, wait 10 seconds, turn back on and do it an other time to make sure all firmware changes are settled correctly): Whited00r Installation Tutorial (http://www.whited00r.com/installation).

After that install & test with MotionX-GPS. If WD 6 does not support GPS on iPhone 3G Factory Unlocked w/ baseband 05.15.04, try the com.apple.locationd.plist replacement (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg78845.html#msg78845), reboot the iPhone 3G, test and please report back again.  8)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/iReb_Recovery_Mode_Error_16XX_PierreP.jpg)

"...but the one helped me was "network reset settings": every time I did it, I lose WiFi pwds but GPS become functional. After few hours it goes KO" - That's interesting, we will have to dig into that. See Network reset in step 5 of my post (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg73175/topicseen.html#msg73175).

*****

Thank you very much Ghilgamesh for your GPS on iPhone 3G testing report.  8)  So +1 Internets for you for giving back to the WD community.

We are trying to find a permanent working solution for the GPS problem so we may add it to the post #1 of this thread and also to include it in the upcoming Whited00r 6.1.3 update. Release date is unknown @ the present so don't ask.

We need more reports from users that includes:

1- Device model and the current iOS firmware you have on it. Is it already jailbroken and carrier unlocked or is it Factory Unlocked?
2- Your Baseband & Bootloader versions.
3- Are you on Mac or Windows OS version?  iTunes version?
4- The country where you are testing the GPS function?

f0recast is a simple free standalone tool to instantly find essential iPhone info including Bootloader version and baseband. Works on Mac & Windows. Download the free f0recast & iREB tools here: http://ih8sn0w.com/

I just connected my iPhone 3G to my computer with iTunes closed, started the small standalone (means no install required) f0recast and it gave me all the essential info about the iPhone:

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/f0rcast_My_iPhone_3G_Info_PierreP.jpg)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on May 08, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
Hi PierreP,
thank u very much, it's a pleasure for me to help  :)
And I hope we can achieve a solution!
You got it, I forgot to say that my Iphone is factory unlocked.
I missed double reboot and no sim inserted installing WD6 on 4.2.1! So next step will be installing 4.2.1 again and recover 05.15.04 fw then put WD6 without sim with double reboot.
Stay tuned ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: 3Gee on May 14, 2013, 03:45:00 AM
helping with the bug report.

BasebandVersion:         05.13.04
BasebandBootloaderVersion:         6.4_M3S2
ModelNumber:         MB629
ProductVersion:         3.1.3

Tried just about every solution in this thread barring a full reformat and re-install.
what is the most annoying  is everytime i use 'camera' i get a popup asking to use my current location. i put dont allow but it does not save and asks everytime.
gps does not work for me, only triangulation.
when im using google maps, i can use it with my 3g in general (without gps ) . but i get many messages in a row 'cannot determine location'
i turned off notifications but keep getting them anyways./  :-[
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: samhl on May 14, 2013, 08:47:28 AM
BasebandVersion:         05.13.04
BasebandBootloaderVersion:         5.9
ModelNumber:         MB048LL
ProductVersion:         3.1.3 Whited00r6 NORMAL
Installation:   as new/fresh  iPhone

No GPS Signal available. Using the iphone before with a custom 4.2.1 (kinki...) and GPS works very well. use it with tomtom and other services.
The iPhone was unlocked by AT&T last year, so that the NORMAL whitedoor is installed and NO other unlock tools are installed nor required.

To ask it simpel: will works GPS with Whited00r and *other* baseband combination? Should i use baseband 5.12.01 or 5.15.04 to get it work ?

Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on May 14, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
...To ask it simpel: will works GPS with Whited00r and *other* baseband combination? Should i use baseband 5.12.01 or 5.15.04 to get it work ?

No, the problem is a-gps http access on iOS 3.1.13. If your iPhone is factory unlocked, don't waste time changing basebands. We are working on a solution, please stand-by.

Thanks for the reports guys but you did no say if you checked GPS w/ MotionX-GPS as I did above: Re: App to Test GPS -MotionX Better than Google Maps (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg79114.html#msg79114)

It takes 12 minutes to get a real GPS fix including altitude the first time, I'll explain later why.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: 3Gee on May 16, 2013, 12:28:50 AM
No, the problem is a-gps http access on iOS 3.1.13. If your iPhone is factory unlocked, don't waste time changing basebands. We are working on a solution, please stand-by.

Thanks for the reports guys but you did no say if you checked GPS w/ MotionX-GPS as I did above: Re: App to Test GPS -MotionX Better than Google Maps (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg79114.html#msg79114)

It takes 12 minutes to get a real GPS fix including altitude the first time, I'll explain later why.

yes i used that app of course and i can only get wifi/triangulation
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: PierreP on May 16, 2013, 04:39:46 AM
yes i used that app of course and i can only get wifi/triangulation

(http://ultraimg.com/images/kZX5N.png)

Even after installing the com.apple.locationd.plist replacement (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg78845.html#msg78845) patch and rebooting the iPhone? Because I flashed the WD firmware again and applied the patch & it worked again on my iPhone 3G modem firmware same as yours: 05.13.04.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/f0rcast_My_iPhone_3G_Info_PierreP.jpg)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/MotionX_GPS_iPhone_3G_WD_B5_PierreP_Cropped.png)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: mxtime on May 16, 2013, 10:50:29 AM
I installed WDunlocked with 05.13.04 and my location shows up as in the picture (someplace in TX) every time. (although I dont even live in the USA)  So I wiped and installed factory 4.2.1 (GPS worked) then upgraded to ipad BB then down to 5.13.04 with 4.2.1(gps worked)
etc.. etc.. etc... GPS always worked, except whenever I load WD no matter what, it shows me in TX... I've tried numerous times/things (replaced the locationd.plist, reset settings, etc..) What is this place in TX?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 16, 2013, 02:13:53 PM
Welcome to the forums :)

Have you tried Motion-X as PierreP has suggested, to see if the real GPS is working, not just the AGPS?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: KarlN on May 16, 2013, 09:08:37 PM
I have an iPhone 3G factory unlocked with BB 05.15.04 running. It shows the same problems with the GPS function other users already reported. GPS is completely ok with official 4.2.1, but it's not running with official 3.1.2 or 3.1.3 and BB 05.15.04. I also tried BB 05.13.04 with the same effects under all mentioned IOS.

I tried to install Whited00r 6 exactly as PierreP told to do. Test with MotionX-GPS showed no GPS function. I replaced locationd.plist, tested GPS again, but it had also no effect.

However, I have seen that the 3G got very hot with MotionX-GPS running and the battery level run down rather quickly. Maybe MotionX-GPS (or other GPS request) try to initialize the GPS hardware continuously, but without success maybe due to improper FW or configuration. On the other hand the GPS problems seem to be not only due to whited00r. They appear also with official 3.1.x and the current BBs.

Up to now, is there any indication that problem can be solved?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: 3Gee on May 17, 2013, 12:37:12 AM
Even after installing the com.apple.locationd.plist replacement (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg78845.html#msg78845) patch and rebooting the iPhone? Because I flashed the WD firmware again and applied the patch & it worked again on my iPhone 3G modem firmware same as yours: 05.13.04.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/f0rcast_My_iPhone_3G_Info_PierreP.jpg)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/MotionX_GPS_iPhone_3G_WD_B5_PierreP_Cropped.png)

i tried this and then reset, still no GPS
however i didn't re-load the firmware. i don't want to have to lose everything in my phone again.
Title: Re: Loosing Stuff When Installing Whited00r or Any Firmware
Post by: PierreP on May 17, 2013, 12:44:52 AM
...however i didn't re-load the firmware. i don't want to have to lose everything in my phone again.

I flash the firmware all the time on my iPhone 3G & other iPhones for testing stuff for WD or stock 4.2.1 or 3.1.3 and I never loose anything.  ;)

Check this tutorial: [Tutorial] Backup Apps & Data BEFORE Upgrading iOS Firmware WD 6 3.1.3 4.1 4.2.1 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7731.0.html)
Title: Re: iPhone 3G factory unlocked with BB 05.15.04 WD 6 - GPS problem
Post by: PierreP on May 17, 2013, 01:06:22 AM
I have an iPhone 3G factory unlocked with BB 05.15.04 running. It shows the same problems with the GPS function other users already reported...

Well I have exactly the same as you: iPhone 3G factory unlocked with BB 05.15.04 running WD 6 Normal version and the .plist patch & MotionX-GPS as described above work so I am mystified.  :o

Do you live in a city canyon w/ tall buildings around you? North Pole maybe where GPS does not work?  :)

Did you follow to the letter my instructions including rebooting & NOT Respring before testing at least 10 minutes outdoor w/ MotionX?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Ghilgamesh on May 23, 2013, 09:32:14 AM
Hi PierreP,
thank u very much, it's a pleasure for me to help  :)
And I hope we can achieve a solution!
You got it, I forgot to say that my Iphone is factory unlocked.
I missed double reboot and no sim inserted installing WD6 on 4.2.1! So next step will be installing 4.2.1 again and recover 05.15.04 fw then put WD6 without sim with double reboot.
Stay tuned ;)

Hi!
I did what I exactly said (I'm on fw 05.15.04) with no luck  :(
I managed gps to work only once through "network reset".
Now it doesn't work even if i do "network reset".
Only Wifi localization is ok as if I disable Wifi I cannot get located

I experimented battery drain reported by KarlN after opening Motion-X.

So my infos are:

Iphone 3g factory unlocked with Normal WD6
Baseband: 05.15.04
Bootloader: 5.9_M3S2
Model: Iphone 1,2 [MB496T/A]
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Draniel on May 26, 2013, 11:43:34 AM
Oh my god but in part WD6 leat to a downgrade not to an upgrade
Is a non sens have an iphone without GPS what can i do?
I tried everythings....

My information:

Factory unlocked (italian) I Phone 3G then WD6 Normal.
at the first test the baseband was 05.15.04
Everythings ok but NO GPS so i tried to do the baseband downgrade as adiced

A the the second installation of WD6 i hae baseband 05.13.04
I did several hard reset but nothing
I replaced the file but nothing
I did some network reset but nothing

I tried outside but the arrow of gps in the right top is missing, it try to locate but after 2 mins it says it can't....


What can i do? if i will reinstall the wd6 unlocker instead of normal it could help?

Thank u in advance...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 26, 2013, 02:05:54 PM
Welcome to the forums! :)

The normal vs unlocked firmware won't help you out sadly if you have a factory unlocked iPhone :(

It can take up to 12 minutes to get a GPS lock outside on a clear day, if you haven't gotten a GPS lock before on the device after a restore.

Also, try resetting the network settings under Settings -> General -> Reset and see if that helps the GPS.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Draniel on May 26, 2013, 02:28:03 PM
I tried also to reset the newtork setting.. no result

I tried to use terminal in onder to load and unload the well known file... no result

I tried to change the above file no result..

I tried again to load and unload with the new file.. no result...

Several hard reset... no result..

I can try again to test outside but the arrow should appear?  it appears with the original firmware but never with WD...
I tried to look for position but it stop before 5 min (position not found).

Now i updated cidya but after the respring it is blocked wit ther rotating circle? it require time or is there a problem?

Thanks

Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 26, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Original firmware being 4.2.1 or 3.1.3?

It can take up to 12 minutes on 3.1.3 sadly :(

If you get the respring loop, just hold down the home/power buttons at the same time until the device turns off, and then turn it back on :)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Draniel on May 26, 2013, 06:47:20 PM
original firmware was 4.2.1
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 26, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
original firmware was 4.2.1

Ah well that GPS works for everybody unless they have hardware problems or baseband 06.15.00.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Draniel on May 26, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
I am sure i have not hardware problem because i tested it with the original firmware.

when i started i had 05.15.04 baseband and gps was ko

the i moved to 06.15.00 in order to obtain the 05.13.04

At the moment I have the 05.13.04 baseband with WD6 unlocked..
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Bruan on May 26, 2013, 07:18:16 PM
I am sure i have not hardware problem because i tested it with the original firmware.

when i started i had 05.15.04 baseband and gps was ko

the i moved to 06.15.00 in order to obtain the 05.13.04

At the moment I have the 05.13.04 baseband with WD6 unlocked..

I didn't think you did have a hardware problem ;)  I was saying for people with hardware problems it wouldn't work on 4.2.1 :)

The different versions of whited00r don't matter GPS wise sadly.  You also only need to mess with basebands if you are either on 06.15.00, or else using whited00r unlocked.  If you are factory unlocked you don't need to mess with them (unless you are on 06.15.00).
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04
Post by: Draniel on May 26, 2013, 07:22:33 PM
i know but i tried anyway
Title: GPS problem - Don't Waste Time Changing Baseband!
Post by: PierreP on May 26, 2013, 09:36:01 PM
Do not waste your time changing basebands if your modem firmware is not the iPad 06.15.00 as it will not fix the a-GPS (a.k.a. AGPS) problem nor affect the GPS Receiver as proven by multiple tests I ran on 2 different iPhone 3G's.

I updated the post #1 (OP) in this thread with more info & links: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.0.html)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_Lock_4_Satellites_PierreP.jpg)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: 3Gee on May 28, 2013, 04:24:15 AM
i just reflashed wd6. installed the patch file through itools
reset
loaded x-gps
searched for satellites. nothhhing .it was raining outside so i did not bring the phone out. waited 10 minutes., nothing.
why shouldn't the gps work on rainy days either ?

someone needs to help \me  with this. everytime i use camera
"camera would like to use your current location"
i hit dont allow but problem returns every time
Title: Re: GPS Indoor Test
Post by: PierreP on May 28, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
i just reflashed wd6. installed the patch file through itools
reset
loaded x-gps
searched for satellites. nothhhing .it was raining outside so i did not bring the phone out. waited 10 minutes., nothing...


Indoor iPhone 3G GPS chipset test and for less than 12 minutes = guaranteed fail!  :)

But the rest of your steps are correct. Wait for sunshine or starry night, go outside and do it again.... for 12 minutes minimum the first time. Next time it will be faster because of the GPS data cache found in the iPhone 3G's folder that is created after the first GPS use: /private/var/root/Library/Caches/locationd.
Title: Re: GPS Indoor Test
Post by: Draniel on May 28, 2013, 12:29:59 PM
Indoor iPhone 3G GPS chipset test and for less than 12 minutes = guaranteed fail!  :)

But the rest of your steps are correct. Wait for sunshine or starry night, go outside and do it again.... for 12 minutes minimum the first time. Next time it will be faster because of the GPS data cache found in the iPhone 3G's folder that is created after the first GPS use: /private/var/root/Library/Caches/locationd.

Yes also in this way you cannot trust too much that it will works...

Should be some problem in WD i hope they will fix soon
Title: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked
Post by: Dankorw on June 20, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
Hey guys, this is my first appearance on the forums so : Hi everyone!  ;D

I've been using Whited00r 6 Normal on my iPhone 3G for a couple of months now, and I'm trying to figure out how to get my gps work again.

Here are some useful info (I guess):

1) Worked well when it was with 4.2.1 and 4.2.1 JB'd firmware;
2) At that point , I used all the steps to install WD 6 that I found on your website with the Unlocked version;
3) My modem's firmware is 05.15.04 (according to my General->Info);
3a) I tried to get more informations about it with f0recast 1.4.2, but I can't get it to work properly (itunesmobiledevice.dll error);
4) My network with 3G works fine, I can browse the internet, send/recieve emails and so on;
5) When I bought my iPhone (from a Vodafone Store) it was already unlocked and I remember using it with a TIM sim (right now I'm using an H3G one);
6) I tried changing the locationd.plist file as I read on previous posts and tested it in the middle of a nearby park with full signal from my carrier but couldn't find any GPS signal with Motion-X;

Any tips?




PierreP Moderator note: Edited the post's title to add relevant keywords as described in Whited00r 6: Tips to Quickly Solve your Problems/Bugs & Get Answers FAST! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php?topic=6934.0)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on June 20, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Welcome to the forums :)

For point number 3, I am a bit interested as to how you have service, as I think whited00r unlocked breaks factory unlocked iPhones if they have that baseband :o  (service wise, until a restore).  You don't have to use whited00r unlocked if you have a factory unlocked iPhone though, but I don't think switching to the normal version of whited00r would help you fix that.

You seem to be in the same boat as everybody else sadly, you could try resetting the network settings and seeing if you can get a location briefly after doing that.

Can you get A-GPS using triangulation from your wifi/cellular data?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked
Post by: Dankorw on June 20, 2013, 06:13:49 PM

For point number 3, I am a bit interested as to how you have service, as I think whited00r unlocked breaks factory unlocked iPhones if they have that baseband :o  (service wise, until a restore).  You don't have to use whited00r unlocked if you have a factory unlocked iPhone though, but I don't think switching to the normal version of whited00r would help you fix that.

My bad, I was wrong. I used the Normal version of WD 6!  ;D

Can you get A-GPS using triangulation from your wifi/cellular data?

Actually while I was trying outside, I was constantly using 3G + cellular data, and got nothing. But I never tried resetting the network settings thought, I'm gonna give it a shot asap!


UPDATE: After the network reset, nothing happens. Still can't get any GPS signal with Motion-X.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on June 20, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
Ah, well you are on the same boat as everybody else :/  This is an issue that lots of effort is being put into to solve it :)

Sadly, there is no solution yet, as you have done all the troubleshooting we have discovered thus far :/
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked
Post by: PierreP on June 20, 2013, 08:43:45 PM
My bad, I was wrong. I used the Normal version of WD 6!  ;D

Actually while I was trying outside, I was constantly using 3G + cellular data, and got nothing. But I never tried resetting the network settings thought, I'm gonna give it a shot asap!

...After the network reset, nothing happens. Still can't get any GPS signal with Motion-X.

It's a known fact that a-GPS (or AGPS - Assisted GPS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS) does not work in Whited00r 6 but GPS itself works after applying the com.apple.locationd.plist patch if you are outdoor for at least 12 minutes which is the time needed for the GPS chipset in the iPhone 3G to lock on and download the data from at least 4 satellites.

There is no need of 3G mobile data nor WiFi to test the GPS (Global Positioning System) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System) itself using the apps suggested in post #1 (MotionX-GPS v12.3 or GPS Kit v3.1, free in App Time Machine) as they can work offline using locally downloaded maps which is really useful when traveling in areas w/o cellular coverage or when in other countries if you don't want to use the expensive Roaming cellular service.

I tested GPS myself several times on both an iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked running Whited00r 6 Normal and with the other basebands 05.12 & 05.13 on an iPhone 3G carrier locked using Whited00r 6 Unlocker version and GPS works after applying the patch.

In all cases the aGPS does not work (fast approximate location using cell towers or WiFi triangulation) with or without the .plist patch because Apple broke the database access of iOS 3.1.3 on which Whited00r is based for max speed & fluidity.

See post #1 in this thread for more details: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.0.html)

We are working on the next version of WD and hopefully aGPS will be fixed. No release date yet so don't ask please as we will announce it when it's ready.  ;)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/Logo_WD_7_B&W_PierreP_01.png)

Meanwhile the only solution for the iPhone 3G if you absolutely need the native Maps application with a fast approximate location based on aGPS is to install the dog-slow iOS 4.2.1 or a custom 4.1 firmware.  :-\
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Dankorw on June 21, 2013, 09:04:35 AM
Alright, after the network reset I managed to get out in the evening. With 3G+Data+Localisation , Maps got some signal and found my position quite fast (not that accurate because I had to move a lot to get the pointer to follow me, and even in that case it was distant from my actual position). I didn't get the big blue circle, but a tiny one. Btw with Motion-X I couldn't get any signal.

I hope this can help you figuring out a little more about its conditions.

Ah, well you are on the same boat as everybody else :/  This is an issue that lots of effort is being put into to solve it :)

Sadly, there is no solution yet, as you have done all the troubleshooting we have discovered thus far :/

I see, and I'm glad you guys are on it!  :D

By the way, I'd like to take the chance to thank you guys for all the effort you are putting on this project. You gave my iPhone the chance to live for a couple of years more. Can't wait for WD7!  ;)
Title: iOS 4.2.1 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked
Post by: emko on July 22, 2013, 05:46:09 PM
iOS 4.2.1 jailbroken using redsn0w, modem firmware 5.15.04, carrier factory unlocked....

tried several things, locationd replacement, deletin location cache from /var/root/Library/Caches/locationd...

over gps status app i was able to reach 65m accuracy, 2 satelites matches, i am able to get poor fix, 65m, but vertical accuracy, speed, course are invalid.... tried all these hard reset, network setting inside settings , everything, still same result.

On maps itself with wifi i am getting clear positions, thus when i was on WD6 normal was even not happening when even in maps i was out of the position, thats why i tried 4.2.1

its very pity...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on July 22, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
So these problems are on 4.2.1, not just 3.1.3 (whited00r)?
Title: Re: iOS 4.2.1 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.15.04 Factory Unlocked
Post by: PierreP on July 23, 2013, 01:50:30 AM
iOS 4.2.1 jailbroken using redsn0w, modem firmware 5.15.04, carrier factory unlocked....

tried several things, locationd replacement, deletin location cache from /var/root/Library/Caches/locationd...

over gps status app i was able to reach 65m accuracy, 2 satelites matches, i am able to get poor fix, 65m, but vertical accuracy, speed, course are invalid...

GPS satellite signals reception is working on both iOS 3.1.3 & 4.2.1 but Maps works faster in iOS 4+ because aGPS (Assited GPS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS) was broken by Apple on iOS 3.1.3 and lower by changing their a-GPS servers.

If you don't get good altitude accuracy then either you did not wait long enough to lock on 4 satellites minimum as described in post #1 of this thread or bad satellite coverage where you are or no good unobstructed view of the sky or too heavy cloud coverage.

You messed up with so much stuff that I would do a fresh install of stock & unmodified iOS 4.2.1 downloaded and installed with iTunes to rule out any problems created by a modification which is not a problem for you because you have a factory unlocked iPhone so no worries about messing up with an impossible to unlock baseband (modem firmware) 05.15.04, insert & activate SIM using iTunes, reboot and test again outdoor for a minimum of 12 minutes with one of the apps suggested in post #1.

Test before jailbreaking using the free GPS Info! (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gps-info!/id333178016?mt=8) that you can find in iTunes (requires iOS 3.0 or later). WiFi or internet access via 3G data is not required to test the GPS feature but does make the Maps app much faster by providing an approximate location when Location is enabled in Settings.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_test_iPhone_3G_GPS_Info_PierreP.png)


The satellite GPS antenna is located in the top of the iPhone 3G just below & between the headphone jack & power button, left of the camera, so don't cover that part with your hand if you want a good GPS reception.

Now if you don't care about Maps you would be better off with the fast & fluid Whited00r 6 Normal for factory unlocked iPhone 3G and use the built-in App Time Machine to get for free all the GPS apps mentioned in post #1 & more than 500 free compatible apps.

Hopefully the aGPS database access will be fixed in the next WD version.

Meanwhile in Whited00r 6 if you get a GPS lock using the GPS apps first then the native Maps app will work if you have 3G data or WiFi enabled so it can download the Google's map's tiles.

So these problems are on 4.2.1, not just 3.1.3 (whited00r)?

No.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: emko on July 23, 2013, 07:27:54 PM
hello!

so, i did clean restore from itunes, let apple install 4.2.1 stock, installed GPS info, and i can confirm i get the signal after few mins! I get all except Course which is still invalid, however i am pretty sure its outside on balcony less than 12 mins so maybe later.... how should i proceed now? I need functional GPS as its now, and offline navigation + facebook, without jailbreaking i am not able to install any .ipa files if am not mistaken....

update: hence icatch the gps, it gets lost after i while.... now i am again on 65m and rest invalid :( its pis.ing me off!
Title: Re: iOS 4.2.1 Not Jailbroken, Offline Maps & GPS
Post by: PierreP on July 23, 2013, 09:17:43 PM
hello!

so, i did clean restore from itunes, let apple install 4.2.1 stock, installed GPS info, and i can confirm i get the signal after few mins! I get all except Course which is still invalid, however i am pretty sure its outside on balcony less than 12 mins so maybe later.... how should i proceed now? I need functional GPS as its now, and offline navigation + facebook, without jailbreaking i am not able to install any .ipa files if am not mistaken....

update: hence icatch the gps, it gets lost after i while.... now i am again on 65m and rest invalid :( its pis.ing me off!

It is not possible to get altitude data & high horizontal accuracy after a few minutes only on the iPhone 3G unless you had a previous lock (which is cached in the phone & also in iTunes) and did not move much. What you are getting is an approximation provided by aGPS or from a WiFi database of known network locations. Read post #1 & the links I provided above.

Again: you need 4 satellites minimum and sitting on a balcony with a building behind you blocking part of the sky is not good. Go in an open field with a good 360 degrees view of the sky and you may get a level of accuracy like the screen capture I posted above.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_Lock_4_Satellites_PierreP.jpg)

The GPS chipset & antenna in the iPhone 3G is old & limited and does not have multi channels nor does it support the Russian GLONASS satellite navigation system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS) like on recent devices and that is why you need 12 minutes minimum to lock on 4 satellites because that is the time they take to send their data to the iPhone 3G.

Where do you see "Course", in which app?  :o

Both MotionX-GPS v12.3 & GPS KIT v3.1 (free in App Time Machine) illustrated in post #1 can use off line maps downloaded to the iPhone 3G and can work without 3G data or WiFi both on Whited00r 6 or iOS 4.2.1.

Search the web for more info about those apps & others as it is not the topic of this thread. Or go to the Apps Compatible with iOS 3.1, 3.1.3, 4.1 & 4.2.1 (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/board,99.0.html) board.

"iOS 4.2.1 ...without jailbreaking" - Whited00r does not support iOS 4.2.1 not jailbroken. You could post in this board and maybe some people may help you: Free Forum! - Everything Off Topic Elsewhere Goes Here! (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/board,20.0.html)

This said, jaibreaking iOS 4.2.1 should not affect the GPS feature if done properly using redsn0w 0.9.14b2. Again, how to do it with redsn0w is off topic for this thread.

BTW Facebook v4.0 downloaded from App Time Machine works fine on my iPhone 3G running Whited00r 6.  ;)

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/App_Time_Machine_Facebook_v4_0_Whited00r_6_iOS_3_1_3_PierreP.png)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: emko on July 24, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
ok, so i followed instructions how to instal normal WD6, i did that, however, in maps with 3g i am getting position which is like 300m off my real one, and in motion x i have it running for more than 15 mins and i am still on wifi/triangular status and last position says Never....  :-\
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS Not Getting Satellites Lock
Post by: PierreP on July 24, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
ok, so i followed instructions how to instal normal WD6, i did that, however, in maps with 3g i am getting position which is like 300m off my real one, and in motion x i have it running for more than 15 mins and i am still on wifi/triangular status and last position says Never....  :-\

If you can't get a GPS satellite lock then are you sure you followed all the steps in App to Test GPS - MotionX-GPS Better than Google Maps (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg79114.html#msg79114) including a Hard Reset?

Did you try with the free in iTunes GPS Info! as illustrated above?

Did you try in an other location with perhaps a better 360 degree unobstructed sky view?

Or try during daytime as I live in Costa Rica and there are much more satellites to lock on compared to during the night.

Now if you live in one of those countries with US drones above you head then you may have an excellent satellite coverage 24/7/365!  :o
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS Not Getting Satellites Lock
Post by: emko on July 24, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
If you can't get a GPS satellite lock then are you sure you followed all the steps in App to Test GPS - MotionX-GPS Better than Google Maps (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7818.msg79114.html#msg79114) including a Hard Reset?

Did you try with the free in iTunes GPS Info! as illustrated above?

Did you try in an other location with perhaps a better 360 degree unobstructed sky view?

Or try during daytime as I live in Costa Rica and there are much more satellites to lock on compared to during the night.

Now if you live in one of those countries with US drones above you head then you may have an excellent satellite coverage 24/7/365!  :o
hey mate, yes i did followed those, even hard reset it, but didnt helped at all, anyway i will try to start it all over step by step again, but i dont think i did anything wrong... right now when i turn on any app out of these - motion x, gpsinfo! sos gps, it has the leatest coordinates which i get from my wifi, however those are not accurate - it shows my position at least 300m out of the real one. ( Please bear in mind, that before the upgrade, on regular 4.2.1 , on same wifi router it points me absolutely correctly!)

i tried to catch up signal on the field without any barriers or so, i have excellent 3g signal as i do live in the middle of the Europe...


Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS Not Getting Satellites Lock - Apple Locationgate
Post by: PierreP on July 24, 2013, 09:45:57 PM
...Please bear in mind, that before the upgrade, on regular 4.2.1 , on same wifi router it points me absolutely correctly!)

i tried to catch up signal on the field without any barriers or so, i have excellent 3g signal as i do live in the middle of the Europe...


Apple changed the known WiFi database URL starting with iOS 4 and newer so that's why the location data is not the same on iOS 3.1.3 or older.

It's related in part to the Apple locationgate (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Apple+locationgate) where Apple was tracking their users without their consent & even backing up to iTunes the tracking data showing where you wen and also to a change of WiFi database provider.

Pogue's post about it in the New York Times: Wrapping Up the Apple Location Brouhaha (http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/28/wrapping-up-the-apple-location-brouhaha/?_r=0)

Try this for "fun": iPhone Tracker (http://petewarden.github.io/iPhoneTracker/) for Mac or iOSTracker.Net (http://tom.zickel.org/iostracker/) for Windows:

Quote
This open-source application maps the information that your iPhone is recording about your movements. It doesn't record anything itself, it only displays files that are already hidden on your computer.

(http://petewarden.github.io/iPhoneTracker/southofengland.png)

*****

Anyway, you want to test the GPS feature & it's chipset and antenna so you can turn off WiFi or 3G data for that matter when using those GPS apps.

That is the beauty of those apps: I can download locally some maps & go to areas w/o cellular coverage and use the GPS feature. Many of our users do not have unlimited data plans so that's a way to save some $ while using GPS on the iPhone 3G besides being able to make some custom maps with trails or unmarked dirt roads, etc. that one can share.

"... i have excellent 3g signal... - You can be in a city canyon with an excellent 5 bars 3G cellular provider signal but with a very restricted sky view which will affect the iPhone's GPS chipset reception of the satellites signals if it can see any at all.  ;)  NYC image from Wikipedia:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/NEW_YORK_CITY_CANYON-TALL_BUILDINGS_JUT_INTO_THE_AIR%2C_YELLOW_CABS_AND_OTHER_VEHICLES_CRAWL_THROUGH_THE_CONGESTED..._-_NARA_-_548331.tif/lossy-page1-328px-NEW_YORK_CITY_CANYON-TALL_BUILDINGS_JUT_INTO_THE_AIR%2C_YELLOW_CABS_AND_OTHER_VEHICLES_CRAWL_THROUGH_THE_CONGESTED..._-_NARA_-_548331.tif.jpg)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: emko on July 25, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
i know i got your point Pierre ;)

i was sitting now on the grass trying to catch up the signal again ( with all turned off except location, using sbettings), in the GPSinfo! app i have last coordination from the wifi i catch yesterday, and the "last update" value is just increasing second by second, locating method says WLAN, attitude not avaiblable, vertical acuracy also not, horrizontally 261m.... i believe these are the leatest data and those are NOT updated, i think that the GPS is not even trying to find the signal, otherwise the coordinates would change a bit at least, because this happend in stock 4.2.1 ... but now nothing.

i did tried hard reset, reset of network setting and location setting
Title: Re: iPhone 3G Dead GPS Chipset or Bad Antenna?
Post by: PierreP on July 25, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
i know i got your point Pierre ;)

i was sitting now on the grass trying to catch up the signal again ( with all turned off except location, using sbettings), in the GPSinfo! app i have last coordination from the wifi i catch yesterday, and the "last update" value is just increasing second by second, locating method says WLAN, attitude not avaiblable, vertical acuracy also not, horrizontally 261m.... i believe these are the leatest data and those are NOT updated, i think that the GPS is not even trying to find the signal, otherwise the coordinates would change a bit at least, because this happend in stock 4.2.1 ... but now nothing.

i did tried hard reset, reset of network setting and location setting

Well unless you are 100% sure that you got a satellite lock with altitude data or accuracy of 17 m or less in iPhone 3G using stock iOS 4.2.1, 3.1.3 or 3.1.2 and WiFi disabled then, as several thousands of iPhone 3G users reported on the web (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22iphone+3g%22+%22gps%22+not+working), the GPS chipset in your iPhone 3G may be fried or the GPS antenna is bad or it is not properly connected to the motherboard which may happen when people make a sloppy battery, headset connector or Power button replacement.  :o

I personally tested the GPS feature in three different iPhone 3G's running Whited00r 6 with different modem firmwares (a.k.a. baseband or bb) and in all cases it worked properly. The only exception is if an iPhone 3G is using the baseband for iPad 06.15.00 because that modem firmware was made for an iPad that did not have any GPS chipset so that feature is not enabled in it.

Users who have the baseband for iPad 06.15.00 (check in iPhone 3G > Settings > General > About) and want the GPS feature working should read those two tutorials about how to change the modem firmware: Downgrade iPad Baseband on iPhone 3G (http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g) and [Solved] iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1 Stuck in Baseband 05.15.04 - No Service (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7134.0.html)

Image of the GPS antenna unit from the excellent iFixit how-to: Installing iPhone 3G GPS Antenna (http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+iPhone+3G+GPS+Antenna/582/1?singlePage) & the logic board image from Semiconductor Insights.

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_Antenna_iPhone_3G_iFixit_Chipset_PierreP.png)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: emko on July 26, 2013, 09:47:07 AM
am gonna give it one more shoot today after work, is there a way i can have external GPS module working with Iphone? That would be probably best solution for me right now...

if there is possiblity i would appreciate if somebody has experiences how to make it work

merci!

*****

Merged post:

no, still same crap, i am throwing this old mobile to the trash and buy 4S, because its freaking me out...

 >:( >:(

UPDATE: just to heads up guys, i think i have faulty gps module, as of now all restored and restarted, 5.13.04 and WD6, all data turned off, deleted cache and reloaded locationd, my MotionX says in gps signal searching for GPS only, it didnt go to wifi/cellular.... so i will see if i will buy spare gps module or so...
Title: iPhone 3G - no GPS - 05.15.04 / 05.12.01
Post by: pietzke69 on August 14, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
hey there,
i installed whited00r 6 (normal) on my official unlocked iphone 3g. nearly everything is fine, but the gps does not work.

i tried whited00r 6 with 05.15.04 and downgraded on 05.12.01. (via ipad-baseband) in both case no function!!

it is strange: on 'normal' 3.1.3 gps seems to work neither, like on whited00r. but on 'normal' 4.2.1 gps works fine. so i think it is not a hardware-problem...

what s the problem? should i try 04.13.x baseband? gps function is very important, but i do not want to use ios 4.2.1. whited00r is otherwise great!

WD6 05.12.01:
(http://s14.directupload.net/images/130814/dbzmxi7x.jpg)

3.1.3 05.12.01:
(http://s7.directupload.net/images/130814/k5m36afo.jpg)

(http://s1.directupload.net/images/130814/brsqlupi.jpg)


4.2.1 05.15.04:
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/130814/5sb2bpcv.jpg)

on 4.2.1 gps works with activated wifi and without.



moderator edit by theguitar to provide the keyword"iPhone" in the title
Title: Re: 3G - no GPS - 05.15.04 / 05.12.01
Post by: theguitar on August 15, 2013, 03:50:50 AM
Welcome to the whited00r forums!

GPS not functioning is a well know problem after downgrading to 3.1.3 from iOS 4 if you are using whited00r or not. If you read here http://www.whited00r.com/tutorial-downgrade3g
 
It says "All whited00r users (or not) with an iPhone 3G who upgraded to the iPad 06.15.00 baseband can downgrade back to a regular iPhone baseband. In this short guide you will learn how to downgrade your baseband from 06.15.00 to 05.12.01 (but you could get 05.13.04 using a different firmware for the rollback) with a lot of benefits: GPS will work fine, you will solve the problem of battery drain and you will get better signal."

It seems GPS should work on 05.13.04.


und Auf Wiedersehen für jetzt!
Title: Re: iPhone 3G - no GPS - 05.15.04 / 05.12.01
Post by: PierreP on August 15, 2013, 06:14:43 AM
...i installed whited00r 6 (normal) on my official unlocked iphone 3g. nearly everything is fine, but the gps does not work...

GPS satellite works in Whited00r on iPhone 3G and all basebands (General > About > Modem firmware) 5.12, 5.13 & if factory unlocked: 5.14 & 5.15. The only exception is if you have the iPad baseband 06.15.

Please read post #1 in this thread and use one the GPS apps to test it as the Native Maps returns a "Your location could not be determined" error in about 1 minute because a-GPS (Assited GPS) does not work in Whited00r or any iOS below 4 because Apple broke the URL of the database of known WiFi's IP.

After you get a lock on some satellites then if you open Maps it will show you location.

We are working on a fix for the next WD but it's not ready yet so we cannot announce a launch date yet so please don't ask.  ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: pietzke69 on August 15, 2013, 08:12:29 AM
okay thanks. i am gonna try to check these gps-apps. i am trying to reinstall withed00r and in this case i am trying to downgrade 5.15.04 --> ipad-baseband --> 05.13.04 but redsn0w is hanging in "waiting for reboot".....

so if gps seems to work in ios 4.2.1, there is no hardware-bug?! or is this "gps-signal" just out of the wifi/3g?



"und Auf Wiedersehen für jetzt!" is great! :-)

edit: i am gonna check wd with 05.15.04 and these gps-apps..
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: PierreP on August 15, 2013, 08:28:40 AM
...i am trying to downgrade 5.15.04 --> ipad-baseband --> 05.13.04 but redsn0w is hanging in "waiting for reboot".....

so if gps seems to work in ios 4.2.1, there is no hardware-bug?! or is this "gps-signal" just out of the wifi/3g?

"...so if gps seems to work in ios 4.2.1, there is no hardware-bug?" - Correct. But don't confuse the GPS chipset and the Maps app. See post #1 and the links in it.

You wrote above ...i tried whited00r 6 with 05.15.04 - If your SIM worked on 5.15 baseband and you could make calls then you have a iPhone 3G Factory Unlocked so you should use the Whited00r Normal version.

No need to mess around changing the baseband in your case because only users with a carrier locked iPhone need to do that. I would install stock iOS 4.2.1 using iTunes and let it install the stock baseband that comes with 4.2.1: 05.15.04 in your case.

Then if you absolutely need Maps, stay there.

Quick approximate location in Maps & Location Services (Core location framework) does not work in Whited00r 6.  :-\

I tested w/ all basebands using the GPS apps (post #1) and in all cases GPS works on my Phone 3G running Whited00r 6 except for the iPad bb and will not re-write post #1 here, sorry.

"i am trying to downgrade 5.15.04 --> ipad-baseband --> 05.13.04 but redsn0w is hanging in "waiting for reboot"..." - This is the proper on topic thread about modem firmware (or baseband) messing around: [Solved] iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1 Stuck in Baseband 05.15.04 - No Service (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7134.0.html) - What to do if you have that baseband and want to install whited00r 6 Unlocked version to be able to use any SIM.
Title: GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband Upgrading & Downgrading
Post by: Axel 4 on August 16, 2013, 05:41:51 PM
did you try to upgrade to 06.15.00 baseband,after downgrade to 05.13.04 on 4.2.1 or 4.1 firmware
it worked for me
after doing this you will have to restore whited00r again
Title: Re: GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband Upgrading & Downgrading
Post by: PierreP on August 17, 2013, 04:39:44 AM
did you try to upgrade to 06.15.00 baseband,after downgrade to 05.13.04 on 4.2.1 or 4.1 firmware
it worked for me
after doing this you will have to restore whited00r again


No, no, no! This will not fix  a-GPS in Maps as described in post #1 for Whited00r 6 or iOS 3.1.3 because the problem is not related to the baseband except if you have the iPad 06.15.00 one that does not enable the GPS chipset.

That modem firmware Upgrading & Downgrading is required only for users with a carrier locked iPhone 3G as explained in this How-to: [Solved] iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1 Stuck in Baseband 05.15.04 - No Service (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,7134.0.html) - What to do if you have that baseband and want to install whited00r 6 Unlocked version to be able to use any SIM.
Title: Re: Location problem whited00r 6
Post by: highhacker on August 31, 2013, 11:06:49 PM
Oh right, the link is still down :(   I can't fix that link, all I can do is email people who can change it, and I have done that twice and had no response :/
could the admin please post this file on another file share service. i have been trying for days to download this and it keeps stopping  :( Dropbox please. I am stuck until i get this no signal fix on the freakin ipad bb upgrade 3g....

Connection to the server was reset ...AAHHHHH for the 50th time . takes three hours and almost get it them this . put it somewhere else please.anyone.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: highhacker on September 01, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
the fact is gps did work on ipad baseband with 4.2.1. I am not the only one who sees this. the fact is after days of upgrading and downgrading to 05.13.04 with 3.1.3 and whited00r6 unlocked i have tremendous battery loss no service no gps .. but if i flash a stock 4.2.1 i get the blue gps arrow on all baseband including 06.15.00 ipad upgrade so you are incorrect . I am stuck with whited00r6 no matter how many clean installs i do it don't work for me on our 3g . I just turn off phone and use it as an ipod for music . when are we going to see a fix to spoof 4.3.3. like my ipod 2g which is on 4.3.3 . i miss cows and aliens..
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on September 01, 2013, 06:02:08 PM
the fact is gps did work on ipad baseband with 4.2.1. I am not the only one who sees this. the fact is after days of upgrading and downgrading to 05.13.04 with 3.1.3 and whited00r6 unlocked i have tremendous battery loss no service no gps .. but if i flash a stock 4.2.1 i get the blue gps arrow on all baseband including 06.15.00 ipad upgrade so you are incorrect . I am stuck with whited00r6 no matter how many clean installs i do it don't work for me on our 3g . I just turn off phone and use it as an ipod for music . when are we going to see a fix to spoof 4.3.3. like my ipod 2g which is on 4.3.3 . i miss cows and aliens..

Not true GPS, aGPS/location by cell towers/wifi.  The iPhoneWiki also says it breaks GPS< not location services. 06.15.00 - The iPhone Wiki (http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/06.15.00)/

It appears broken on 3.1.3 though because of location services that it used is broken now and no longer used.  In iOS4 it was changed to what is still supported by apple for location services.

Unless you tested by using an app for GPS only, not the maps app as that taps into the aGPS and the like (not true GPS.  GPS works without cell connection/internet).
Title: iPad Baseband 06.15.00 Does Not Enable the GPS Chipset
Post by: PierreP on September 01, 2013, 06:06:09 PM
the fact is gps did work on ipad baseband with 4.2.1...

That is simply impossible because that baseband was made for an iPad that DID NOT have a GPS chipset so it was never enabled by Apple in that modem firmware.

What you are seeing is Location Services using cellular antennas triangulation, known WiFi locations database look-up (Assisted GPS or aGPS) as explained in post #1 of this thread and the cache found in your iPhone in: /private/var/root/Library/Caches/locationd.

As Brian wrote above unless you use one of the real GPS apps described in post #1, you are not testing the GPS chipset only when using the native Maps app.

Those screen captures were made on my iPhone 3G running Whited00r 6 and as you can see the GPS satellite feature works:

(http://vaiofseries.com/whited00r/GPS_test_iPhone_3G_MotionX-GPS_GPS_Kit_GPS_Info_PierreP.png)

Some of that cellular antennas triangulation & known WiFi locations location data (aGPS) is copied to your computer when you connect to iTunes and copied back to the device after a restore & connecting back to iTunes.

Try this to see what I am talking about: iOSTracker.Net (http://tom.zickel.org/iostracker/) for Windows "displays the recorded location information from your iOS version 4.X Devices Backups on your computer that were done by iTunes".

(http://tom.zickel.org/iostracker/screenshot1.png)

(http://tom.zickel.org/iostracker/screenshot2.png)


Or iPhone Tracker (http://petewarden.github.io/iPhoneTracker/) for Mac OS: "This open-source application maps the information that your iPhone is recording about your movements. It doesn't record anything itself, it only displays files that are already hidden on your computer."

(http://petewarden.github.io/iPhoneTracker/southofengland.png)


If you do not want to be tracked then you could read this: ;) [Paranoia] Stealth Wear - Anti NSA & CIA Spying & Tracking Gear (http://www.whited00r.com/forum/index.php/topic,10027.0.html)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 25, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
Hello,
I also have the GPS problem after installing WD6 normal on my iphone 3g. Everything works fine except the GPS ... So I tried the method for GPS FIX LaunchDaemons but in my case I have nothing? Is this normal? I put the file in the folder but it did not solved the problem (I could change anything in permissions and ownerships, I do not know what to change!). Is what I have to do something else? Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on October 25, 2013, 08:04:45 PM
Hello,
I also have the GPS problem after installing WD6 normal on my iphone 3g. Everything works fine except the GPS ... So I tried the method for GPS FIX LaunchDaemons but in my case I have nothing? Is this normal? I put the file in the folder but it did not solved the problem (I could change anything in permissions and ownerships, I do not know what to change!). Is what I have to do something else? Thank you for your help.

Welcome to the forums :)

What is your baseband?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 25, 2013, 08:09:33 PM
Thanks for your fast answer
my bb is 05.15.04
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on October 25, 2013, 08:14:22 PM
Thanks for your fast answer
my bb is 05.15.04

No, you shouldn't have to change anything else.  Have you tried the MotionX GPS tests?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 25, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
yes but it does not work it does not find satellite. it locates me only if I put in wifi. I tried GPSinfo!, It locates me with WLAN method but never with the GPS as it is shown in the post. Is that there is nothing to change in permissions com.apple.locationd.plist file? In tab propiaetary its root selected and in the tab group is wheel is that it's good? sorry for my english...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on October 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
yes but it does not work it does not find satellite. it locates me only if I put in wifi. I tried GPSinfo!, It locates me with WLAN method but never with the GPS as it is shown in the post. Is that there is nothing to change in permissions com.apple.locationd.plist file? In tab propiaetary its root selected and in the tab group is wheel is that it's good? sorry for my english...

Ah that may be it, check another daemon in the folder as they are all the same.  If it has the same ownerships and permissions it should be working :/
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 26, 2013, 06:23:33 AM
Thanks but i have not daemon in the same folder! My folder launchdaemon was  empty, so now there is just com.apple.locationd.plist and i can't check a other daemon!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 &amp; 06.15.00
Post by: S4D0R on October 26, 2013, 07:16:28 AM
Thanks but i have not daemon in the same folder! My folder launchdaemon was  empty, so now there is just com.apple.locationd.plist and i can't check a other daemon!
That's a serious problem!
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 26, 2013, 07:28:31 AM
Ha?? and how can i solve it?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 &amp; 06.15.00
Post by: S4D0R on October 26, 2013, 08:03:27 AM
This might be the way...
Try it though...

http://www.brighthub.com/mobile/iphone/articles/99689.aspx
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 26, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
No, it don't works again
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 &amp; 06.15.00
Post by: S4D0R on October 26, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
:( mmmmm...
Im so sorry :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on October 26, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
Thanks but i have not daemon in the same folder! My folder launchdaemon was  empty, so now there is just com.apple.locationd.plist and i can't check a other daemon!

That is not good.  Did you delete the folder first or something? :o  Or are you certain it is the right path, with the correct capitalization and everything?  launchdaemon and LaunchDaemon are different things to the system ;)
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 &amp; 06.15.00
Post by: S4D0R on October 26, 2013, 04:50:35 PM
But if he doesn't have anything but that launchdaemon on that folder is rather to restore than restoring just the files because the iPhone could have any other problem...
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: floutz on October 26, 2013, 06:45:53 PM
I confused LaunchdDaemon and launchdaemon ... Sorry! I try and tell you if it works. Thank you for all
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on October 27, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
I confused LaunchdDaemon and launchdaemon ... Sorry! I try and tell you if it works. Thank you for all

So you do have a LaunchDaemon folder though?  Because if you don't, do not reboot your device or you will have to restore for certain if you do...  It should be /System/Library/LaunchDaemons.  If all is okay, it will have a bunch of files in there. If not, then uh-oh :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: demiwhat on November 03, 2013, 09:32:51 AM


"After that, use iFile from Cydia and navigate to that directory, and tap the blue arrow next to a daemon other than the one you just put in (doesn't matter which one). Take a note of the permissions and ownerships of the file, and then modify the com.apple.locationd.plist to match that of it. (by tapping the blue arrow on it and then changing the permissions/ownerships)"

I did not follow the steps correctly and replaced the com.apple with the old one and thus no longer know what the old options for permission/ownership were.. what do i do?
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on November 03, 2013, 08:34:06 PM

"After that, use iFile from Cydia and navigate to that directory, and tap the blue arrow next to a daemon other than the one you just put in (doesn't matter which one). Take a note of the permissions and ownerships of the file, and then modify the com.apple.locationd.plist to match that of it. (by tapping the blue arrow on it and then changing the permissions/ownerships)"

I did not follow the steps correctly and replaced the com.apple with the old one and thus no longer know what the old options for permission/ownership were.. what do i do?

Doesn't matter which daemon you use to check what the permissions should be ;) Just check them with one other than the one you replaced.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: tenrambler on December 05, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
Hi, there!

I've been following this topic for half a year now. I am running an iPhone3G, baseband 05.15.04, factory unlocked, WD6 with gps still not working.
To contribute to this mission I have tried the following steps:


First try:

Clean install 4.2.1 - gps working, after that WD6 installation as described in the "installation wizzard": install 3.1.2, error 1050, exit rec-mode via recboot - gps ALREADY not working, finally WD install - gps not working.

Then I have tried the way of changing the com.apple.locationd.plist as described in the forum - with no positive result.

Second try:
Clean install 4.2.1 - gps working, after that jailbreak with redsn0w - gps still working, finally WD6 install - gps not working.

In my opinion it's a pure baseband 05.15.04 vs. firmware 3.x.x. problem.

As there are already so many different "subjects" in the forum concerning the gps not working, perhaps this is no news for you (and perhaps somebody could clean up a little).

Waiting for WD7 with a "fixed" gps.

tenrambler



Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on December 06, 2013, 02:11:00 AM
Hi, there!

I've been following this topic for half a year now. I am running an iPhone3G, baseband 05.15.04, factory unlocked, WD6 with gps still not working.
To contribute to this mission I have tried the following steps:


First try:

Clean install 4.2.1 - gps working, after that WD6 installation as described in the "installation wizzard": install 3.1.2, error 1050, exit rec-mode via recboot - gps ALREADY not working, finally WD install - gps not working.

Then I have tried the way of changing the com.apple.locationd.plist as described in the forum - with no positive result.

Second try:
Clean install 4.2.1 - gps working, after that jailbreak with redsn0w - gps still working, finally WD6 install - gps not working.

In my opinion it's a pure baseband 05.15.04 vs. firmware 3.x.x. problem.

As there are already so many different "subjects" in the forum concerning the gps not working, perhaps this is no news for you (and perhaps somebody could clean up a little).

Waiting for WD7 with a "fixed" gps.

tenrambler

Did you use the MotionX GPS test, or just the apple maps?  Because the apple maps will work on 4.2.1, not 3.1.3 though.  Nothing relating to the GPS at all in that matter sadly :(
Because if it is broken on stock 3.1.3/3.1.2, then whited00r can't fix something that is broken on the stock firmware because it isn't open source :(

Even having a lower baseband still doesn't work for most people, but keep in mind the maps location information will never work on 3.1.3 because the servers it uses have been dropped, and only the ones from 4.2.1 work now.  Can't be ported to 3.1.3 either though :(
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: tenrambler on December 07, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
I used Maps on 4.2.1 and GPS Status 1.2 on 3.1.2 and 3.1.3.

Good news for me: By messing around a little by trying to install openssh and to upgrade Cydia packages my iPhone froze, so I did another jailbreak with blackrain and installed WD6 for the third time and on the spur of the moment I then checked the gps again et voilà: GPS is working... things that make you go hmmm.
Title: Re: Whited00r 6 - GPS problem iPhone 3G Baseband 05.13.04, 05.15.04 & 06.15.00
Post by: Bruan on December 07, 2013, 06:32:55 PM
I used Maps on 4.2.1 and GPS Status 1.2 on 3.1.2 and 3.1.3.

Good news for me: By messing around a little by trying to install openssh and to upgrade Cydia packages my iPhone froze, so I did another jailbreak with blackrain and installed WD6 for the third time and on the spur of the moment I then checked the gps again et voilà: GPS is working... things that make you go hmmm.

The maps app isn't the preferred way to test GPS as it can use cached location data, as well as the working location services framework (3.1.3 as a whole is broken as I said, not just whited00r).
Well that's odd news, but good news I suppose :). I think that is why it is so tricky to track down how to fix GPS on the iPhone 3G, as it isn't related to basebands so much as luck :( (as it was broken on 3.1.3 for you too, not just whited00r).   We do what we can to get people to what should work though, as well as try and find the common connection between all those with working and what they did to get it working.  So far nothing is making sense though :(